Seems that way I'm afraid. As a senior player I had hoped he would maybe become more of an organiser and thinker as he has got older but it hasn't happened. As you say his key weapons of speed and agility appear at least to be fading.

I wish people would stop thinking about putting Horney at fb...:s



Just leave Tansey there

Seems common sense to me, Tansey looks a quality fullback so stop pratting about moving people from there best position just to compensate someone else been crap in their position.

and who do we play at half back, without Horne and Long? Horne can't create at 7, Washbrook can't create at 6 or 7, Agar can't create a gameplan!

OK...we should use Turner then

Totally agree

Moving possibly the only player with the character and ability to lead the team in the absence of Long isn't pratting about in my opinion it's reacting to the obvious issue we have in our team.

Houghton to hooker and Berro to 7....has less disruption on the team than moving people all over the shop and leave Tansey alone at F/B.

So you'd weaken the full back position aswell? Tansey is our best FB and by some distance. Leave him there.



Give Turner a shot at 6 he see's himself as a 6. You never know he might turn out to be outstanding there, and hopefully keep Horne out of that position.

Nail on head.



He was once a fantastic runner of the ball. But the acceleration, mobility and deceptive strength has faded, almost certainly never to return.



The result: there is nothing there now, nothing. People need to realize it won't help to move him to full back or anything else. There is nothing there any more.

I watched Turner in pre season. Was impressed with him at centre against Rovers. Was much less impressed with him in the halves against championship side Sheffield. I was looking to see if he was directing and organising play but he wasn't. That is what we are missing. He may do it in the future but he is new and young.



Tansey played FB today and we lost. I don't want him to play FB next week and us lose again - would rather see him play in the halves and see his obvious attacking flair and directing skills put to use at first receiver. We need to react to our obvious deficiency without Long not wring our hands and try an untested youngster in a position where we need a leader in Long's absence.