watched the game again today thinking I had missed more the first time I watched it.



pleased to say my opinions of the game hadn't changed, wigan was just the better side on the day



the Sam Tomkins saga will en-devour to roll on now through the coming weeks and I fear will escalate further if he keeps up with this childish acts, he even made an attempt to pat JJB on the back after being pushed into touch in the tackle

imho wigan were the better team on the day but the scrum to wigan which came off the wigan player in to touch..the spear on delaney..the forward pass... leeds were unlucky for the very poor decisions on the day...and the try ??? to me he lost control over the line which was great defence...same as we normally are on the receiving end against leeds ...doesn't make it any better tho! the sooner we see decent officials the better!

I do not mind players giving each other a sarcastic tap on the back or a word in their ear when they mess up, its part of the game. Disrespecting officials and fans though is not acceptable or professional, the Tomkins flicking of the v's was very immature. He seems to have a pretty level head when interviewed and I hope he learns from it.





There is a win at all costs mentality and a mentality of stupidity. I applaud the first despise the second. Hopefully Tomkins will learn from his actions, the club have acted quickly to hopefully draw a line under the incident.

what have the club done?

Think the scrum decision was the correct call. Burrow goes down to the ground to shepherd the ball into touch and makes contact, it is a deliberate play at the ball, it does hit charnley last but it is off the ricochet from Burrow not a deliberate play.



Leeds had a try off a forward pass, and the lack of penalty for the Ablett play the ball which nearly swung the game was as crucial a decision or lack of as any.



Game went pretty much as I expected Wigan do not enjoy Leeds style and I hope we do not meet them again as I think they will beat us at some point this year.

Fined the player and issued a formal apology to the Leeds club and fans.....as has Tomkins.



Given this kind of thing has been happening a lot lately and it generally gets ignored by the clubs involved, a classy move.

and every wigan play the ball was played correctly using the foot

leeds forward pass...at least there appeared to be a backward movement with the shoulders facing the correct way whereas the wigan forward pass was deliberate ie....shoulders facing forward...as for the charnley contact..what exactly was he doing there with no intention to play at the ball??

well done wigan



well done sam





lets all learn a lesson here...sam is a big talent , some people hate him some people love him...personally i think he is a great player .. but lets leave the bboing alone when / if he represents the country...also sinfield moans and play acts more than sam does !

You have your opinion fair enough, I do not intend to derail a thread. What I will say is regardless of shoulders etc the ball went forward. A forward pass is a forward pass.



Charnley was following the kick up BUT whilst making a play at the ball prior to Burrow going down, did not make a deliberate play off the ricochet off Burrow.



As for the Ablett play the ball, he never regained his feet and never even attempted to play the ball with his foot. Yes most games players do not perform the play the ball very well, but that was a very bad one that should have been penalised and would have been in 90% of matches.



In my opinion the better team won but I will acknowledge I think the margin flattered Wigan.

The playing of the ball by all players seemed to have improved at the start of the season, with the officials and teams making a more concerted effort to do it properly but as the season rolled on it's worse than it's ever been. Players playing the ball on one knee seems to have crept in more and very rarely does anyone use the foot anymore, basically it's at best a pass back through the legs.

I wonder how they'll deal with his abuse of officials? By my count, yelling in a touchy's face and grabbing Mr Bentham's arm.



He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy.

Well whoooopie do lets all sing the praises of the Wigan club then.



He's been borderline all season and the Wiganclub have done what exactly to stop this? they have acted because they had no choice, get real.