Do you really believe the result would be the same if the players voted tomorrow?



I have no problems with players voting on MoS but the timing of the vote devalues the award since it fails to take into account the fact that the best players come to the for when it matters

Indeed, apologies Rogues. He was in fact better in 2010 than 2011. Bit of a trend here

Yes, because unlike yourself, the players probably vote for the best player across the whole season and not the previous 5 weeks.

You miss the point, MOS voting should finish when the playoffs end.

Peacock would have been more worthy than Sinfield as a challenger for M.O.S. over the whole season.

All these posts about whether Tomkins should have won this years MOS miss the point.



The question isn't why KS didn't win the MOS this year. It's why he hasn't won a MOS award over the 10 years he's consistently been the best player in Super League.



Whilst in some individual years the odd player may have had a stellar season, there surely must at some point in the last 10 years when the players thought KS had played well enough even to get a nomination (which he has never had).



Surely even the Wigan fans arguing for Tomkins on here must agree with that?

I'm not sure that you'll find [uany[/u Leeds fan that agrees. JP is a machine and steps up when it matters but Sinny is the heartbeat of our side.



Also, I think you're sidestepping the question of whether Tomkins would win if the vote was post GF

SInce 2004 any one would have thought a Leeds player would have been within a shout of MOS,but none has been within a shout ,and I am sorry,but that does not hang well with me

Nearest we got was Danny McGuire I guess

Someone has just pointed this out to me on twitter and it has changed my opinion in a way



Yes, Sinfield does deserve recognition but at the same time, he is part of team who are outstanding and the form in the last decade is unreal.



Individual praise or trophies?



I think the silverwear for me

Just to clarify,

As I was present the MOS awards, no one votes for the shortlist of three, that is chosen by the RFL,



I spoke to Sam and a lot of other players, and a lot of them were bemused with the result as the vast majority had voted for Benny Westwood, even Sam had.



The process needs to be a lot more transparent, I am not accusing the RFL of fixing the result as any of the three would IMO be worthy winners, but while the counting is done behind closed doors there will always be questions asked.

It's a team game. You can shove the MOS up the collective 'arris. Ask Sam if he's happy! Our players are ignored and we win the GF. That'll do me.