a question we all need to answer imo. Lets be honest teams in every sport have a honeymoon period when a new coach comes in.



While we looked awesome for the first 10 games, after wakefield we've looked like nobles wigan imo. Lets be honest, we only beat salford due to two brilliant plays by pat, the sheffield game had shades of the barrow debacle, then we go and let the worst team in super league shift 30 past us at home in one half.



Yes we're still top of the league but its hardly what championship teams are made of is it.



Think weve got to be realistic tho and ask have things really changed or was madge just getting an etra 10 percent out of them as it was new coach syndrome?



I guess the next few weeks will tell and how we respond from this but i really think were only now going to see if we really are title contenders by round 20 or so.



Lets be honest, two league losses to huddersfield are coming up unless there is a massive change in form and attitude and that would peg us back into our usual position of also rans hanging behind the top two again.



Just hope we can bounce back but the game next week in edinburgh could define our season imo.

The players have simply taken their foot of the gas after hearing how easy our run of games against Salford, SHeffield and Quins would be imo. We've been pretty poor in all 3 and got what we deserved last night.



I expect to see the players lift that intensity back up next week against Huddersfield and they'll have to or else we'll get a good hiding.

Should be interesting next week. I'd be more worried if we had lost last night with Roberts, Leuluai and Coley in the team though.

Just hoping we can get some of players back in the next few weeks...

Surely its impossibe to answer unless someone has a time machine..

We defo missed them players but then again it was the performance what let me down I don't mind losing if we have put up a good fight but we did nt I was impressed with Farrell gutted he got cramp when he broke the line

Yep. I'd settle for just Gleeson plus either TL or Deacs, they're the positions we suffered the most IMO.

I think Madge now has the same problem that Nobby had in so much as how he can keep this team motivated. Look how many times under Nobby did we follow a great win against good opposition with an abject performance the following week against weaker opposition. It isn't quite as bad under Madge but the signs are there. It will be interesting to see if Madge can sort it because Nobby couldn't.



How exactly do you get into the minds of players to stop this complacency happening?

It's bad, and it's only going to get worse with Huddersfield coming up twice and a tricky CC tie. Crusaders away won't be easy either. We could go all May without a win.

Nowt like a poor loss to knock the cockyness out of the players, another 7 match winning streak wouldn't go amiss from now!

I think people are overreacting a touch. We had too many players out of position due to injuries and if Harlequins are worst team in this league the standard has improved 20 fold since last season! This will let the players know they arent invincible and they havent won sh*t yet. We didnt even do the basics right so we were never going to win, Quins wanted it so much more and they got it.

We’ve got injuries and they’ve effected us in a major way imo. Let’s not go majorly OTT with the future of the season yet. Every team goes through a period like this and we’ve just gotta go back to basics, get some players back and plough through it.



Our injuries are having a big impact but they can’t be used as the sole reason for our defeats.



Coley= our best prop

Roberts= in form player in the league

Deacon & Tommy= No depth at HB

Gleeson= Best centre



If you lose your best prop, your best back, best centre and then have your first choice and back up seven getting injured at the same time it’s always gonna knock your team sideways.



It’s not all doom and gloom however. The return of Coley, Gleeson and Tommy will be huge for us. Having three players with their quality returning to the team will lift us above the level of last night as they are all quality players.



Tommy will give us more direction at HB and he’s a top defender

Gleeson will tighten up the defence on his side of the park and is cool head in the backs

Coley will also offer us hard yards and is, again, another top defender.



It’s not all doom and gloom and players like Farrell and Feka have been getting game time which will only benefit us in the long run.



We’ll soon have all of our top players back and that competition for places which worked so well for us early on.