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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"This is the impression I get. Must be a salary cap related thing
Some on here would clearly argue against such a move. I certainly would not and it is something I would like to see.
I am pretty sure our chairman has said he is not at all keen on such behavior of players either when he posted on here or in the press. He also said the club wanted to know about it but really that is no real response to such allegations because the club should be pro-active and do something along the lines you suggest. So maybe it will wake up and as you say insist on greater professionalism.
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I believed he said give him a ring if we saw anything - did anyone ring saying they had seen Gaz Hock smacked up?
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| Quote SomersetSaint="SomersetSaint"I agree entirely that the best form of control is self control, and part of Wigan's success came from players like Betts who were true professionals, helped by the likes of Tuigamala and Robinson who had other reasons for not drinking. I can't think of too many players with the professionalism of a Betts in the game now, which is odd considering they are all full time professionals, maybe with just too much spare time on their hands?
But I disagree that there is nothing that clubs can do about players who go out getting sloshed. Tony Smith was apparently really tough on this at Leeds, and is doing the same at Warrington. Why not have a code of conduct that says players must not drink for 2 or 3 days before a game? If they don't like it, they don't get a contract.
There is a drinking culture within the game, not just at Wigan, although I think it has been a problem there for a few years now, but equally at the likes of Warrington, and also at Saints. Maybe the Hock debacle is a good opportunity for Wigan to lead the way, and insist on greater professionalism from its players?'"
Good post, I think you are spot on here. I have to say this incident has really got me wondering about some of the poor performances at Wigan. I would hate to think that it caused by a culture of partying and off the field antics - aka Hock. I really hope this is not the case, because if it is management better do something pronto, or I suspect people will not be renewing their season tickets. |
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| I dont mind people slaying HOCK FOR WHAT HE as done,,but to keep calling him numb, thick,dumb,no brains, ect ect is totally outa order,,id pay to see these guys what say things, to say it to the guys face lol.. round one,, ding ding,, end of fight one punch ur gone hahahahhaahah,, i hope hock gets his head together and comes back to torment defences again, good luck gaz buddy,, hope to see u playing again in 2 years,,i for one will pay to watch such talent,,  |
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| Quote wiganboy="wiganboy"I dont mind people slaying HOCK FOR WHAT HE as done,,but to keep calling him numb, thick,dumb,no brains, ect ect is totally outa order,,id pay to see these guys what say things, to say it to the guys face lol.. round one,, ding ding,, end of fight one punch ur gone hahahahhaahah,, i hope hock gets his head together and comes back to torment defences again, good luck gaz buddy,, hope to see u playing again in 2 years,,i for one will pay to watch such talent,,
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| Quote wiganboy="wiganboy"I dont mind people slaying HOCK FOR WHAT HE as done,,but to keep calling him numb, thick,dumb,no brains, ect ect is totally outa order,,id pay to see these guys what say things, to say it to the guys face lol.. round one,, ding ding,, end of fight one punch ur gone hahahahhaahah,, i hope hock gets his head together and comes back to torment defences again, good luck gaz buddy,, hope to see u playing again in 2 years,,i for one will pay to watch such talent,,
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Exactly what do you expect people to say
"Well done a master stroke of genius never seen before in our times a Rhodes Scholarship* is in the bag!"
How exactly is taking drugs anyway never mind when you have a posibilty of random testing, therefore loosing your livleyhood, not stupid, thick, numb, dumb and showing no brains?"
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| Quote [Gareth="[Gareth"nowt wrong with a player getting ratted, even during the season (as long as its not a couple of days before a game) as alcohol doesnt tend to affect you for long after you have consumed it.
however, drugs are a different story and any professional should know better regardless of wether they are affected by them or not come game time'"
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| Quote [Gareth="[Gareth"nowt wrong with a player getting ratted, even during the season (as long as its not a couple of days before a game) as alcohol doesnt tend to affect you for long after you have consumed it.
however, drugs are a different story and any professional should know better regardless of wether they are affected by them or not come game time'"
From an after effects point of view, id prefer the players to do the oposite, as after a heavy night on the larger i feel like i have been lanced in the forehead for a day!
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| Quote nikos="nikos"I believed he said give him a ring if we saw anything - did anyone ring saying they had seen Gaz Hock smacked up?
or any other current player for that matter - I can recall seeing one in the same state, anyone else?'"
Every now and again you get posts from people saying they saw a player wrecked but the point I was making was it is was unreasonable thing for IL to suggest fans give him a ring about it.
What is he going to do? Haul the player up in from of him and say nikos said he saw you p! ssesd last night?
So the club needs to be pro-active in the way SomersetSaint suggested.
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Cant beleive the picture of Gaz Ellis and Joel Tomkins is still on that second hock article after a week.............Come on Gaz and Joel get your finger out and slap a law suit on the ignorent gits!
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Cant beleive the picture of Gaz Ellis and Joel Tomkins is still on that second hock article after a week.............Come on Gaz and Joel get your finger out and slap a law suit on the ignorent gits!
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