Tomkins is a very good player with a bright future ahead of him but think he's got a long way to go before you can compare him to someone like Danny Mcguire. Mcguire has proved it over a long period of time and has won massive games for Leeds with flashes of brilliance In every season he has played,



Tomkins will need to do it over a longer period before you will have a serious argument, I think he will but who knows what might happen in the coming seasons, yes he has talent and looks good but has to stand the test of time before he can be mentioned in the same breath.

Spot on!



Actions speak louder than words.

Thats fine with us if your happy with Danny McGuire instead of Sam Tomkins, we are happy with Sam Tomkins instead of Danny McGuire. Everyone is happy

McGuire has won 4 league titles, 0 challenge cups and 2 WCC.



Tomkins already has 1 league title and has won YPOTY 2 years on the trot. As an individual honour that is a pretty high one. I don't think that success is down to just McGuire as well, it is the whole Leeds team. Tomkins is the better player, I can't believe anyone would disagree.

Mate I can't believe you actually believe Riddell is better than Cunningham, that has to be one of the worst statements I've ever heard. I bet you can't find a rugby fan in world rugby that would agree with you. I'm actually really shocked you've said that.

Its pointless arguing mate cos we don't know what will happen in the coming seasons because until Tomkins has proved it for a longer period of time you can't really compare him to Mcguire who has been there and done it in massive games year after year, so give it 4-5 more years then come back.

I am comparing as an idividual player right now!



If I wanted to compare careers then I would be happy to wait but I am comparing the two players quality from the last 2 seasons. Tomkins is the better player. He has already proved he can win games and get us out of trouble, he has done it on so many occasions in only two years in the first team.

Anyone who is comparing Tomkins to McGuire needs their head testing. McGuire is a good support player end of! Sam is the complete player and has already surpassed what McGuire has achieved in his two years as a first team player.

Its a matter of opinion, no one can win. But still think Tomkins has a way to go, and you can't say over the last 2 seasons because a player isn't just judged on what skills he's got or pace etc it is also judged over a number of seasons in different game situations, also temprament must be taken into consideration and Tomkins' is suspect to say the least.

Crazy comment this one, you obviously haven't seen him play much because to say Mcguire is just a support player is ridiculous, yes one of his great attributes are that he's the best support player in the game and started off mainly as one but has deleloped his game and is now a very good half back who creates loads of oportunities for team mates, his short kicking game is good and his eye for a gap is second to none. To say he's just a support player I think is very unfair.

Eh? Tomkins has achieved more? No he hasn't Fact! He will do well to achieve half of what Mcguire has. Look you can argue all you want but the facts are there, Tomkins has a long way to go. Tomkins record just doesn't stand up to Mcguires and I doubt ever will.



I would like to know what you judge as an achievement

Tomkins has actually achieved more over the last two years than mcguire has over the last two years lol

Some one can be judged the best player in the world Stacey Jones for example and have no medals to show for his personal achievments. Team sports reward teams. Individual awards could be considered a better a gauge on how good an individual player is compared to his contemporaries.

The thing that impresses me most about Maguire is his defence.