Too many errors in the first 30 minutes in our own 20.



Leeds were the most clinical I've seen a team in a very long time - made us pay every time we made an error.



Appalling goal line defence.



We completely went away from what we do when we got ourselves back in the game, tried to play catch-up rugby far too early. If we'd kept our structure we'd have ground our way back into the game, but every time we got a sniff we made another stupid error in the second half by throwing it about too much.



Best team won and the score flattered Wigan.



As Wane said:



"We didn't turn up today. We've defended all year better than that. But take nothing way from Leeds. They wanted it more which to me is gutting. They've some real warriors in their team."

Big matches demand big starts as our recent GF and CC wins prove. Today's start set the tone for the rest of the match unfortunately.



It's a slippery slope that starts with one deficiency in a teams performance, which eventually as the match wares on effects every facet of play. Errors, lack of possession and position, enthusiasm, composure, missed tackles. All are follow on from one and other when you don't play well.

to win a final you get the glory ! to get to the final you get the money

Wane has to take some of the blame for the fact he just has not dealt with the loss of Tommy properly at all.



Lockers is not a #6 and this has been said so many times and it also removes the best #13 in the league from his rightful position.



The debate about moving Sam to #6 has been done to death but it need not have come to that. All he had to do was recall Mellor form Widnes and that would have meant [uzero[/u positional changes.



I have no idea what the reasoning is behind not recalling a number 7 when our number 7 is out injured but Wane needs to learn from this in the way he hopefully learned from making too many changes v Windes earlier in the season. He should have realised by now Lockers isn't a six and it was naive of him to think we could go into a cup semi final with the team this out of shape and a make shift stand off. Beating Wakey with a team made up like this is no indication of how they will fare in a cup semi-final.

We were that bad it is quite amazing that we only lost by 11 points. Despite us being as bad as we were just a few less individual mistakes and a pair of glasses for Thaler and we would have won the game. Leeds really should have been out of sight by half time.

Shocking defence and shocking refereeing.



You do not win a big game conceding 39 points.



Finch had a nightmare. Tuson should never start ahead of Faz and Hughes.

MM was clearly not fit.

Or maybe Wane and the coaching staff feel that Mellor isnt good enough. The fact that they havent recalled him, as well as signing Smith early, suggests that they do not. Maguire often used O'Loughlin at 6 so it is hardly nothing new and I dont recall anyone calling him naive when he did.

O'Loughlin was one of our few good performers today and looked very good at stand off. Admittedly his presence in the middle may not have helped when chasing the game as the team obviously looks much better with three pivots instead of two; however his performance today was actually quite good, just like against Wakefield and he's shown that when purely looking at the halves (i.e not taking his loss at 13 into account) he's by far the best player to use as a stand in.

However, when you do take into account what we lose at 13 it's not been ideal.



With O'Loughlin at 6 we also need our strongest pack out for most of the game which means Farrell at loose forward from the start.



Now that Matty Smith is here though it's all largely irrelevant.

I actually thought he was very poor defensively by his standards and was at fault for 2 tries with players going straight through him.

We were chasing the game from the start.

Too many mistakes and Leeds scored from most. If they didn't field position was theirs and we could hardly get into their half.

If we could have completed more sets we'd have had a chance. As for respeated sets I can't remember any, may have had the odd one but if you want to win games repeat sets are the way.

We just didn't have field position to get them.

From the outset Leeds had the momentum and enthusiasm and that won the day.

Thaler may have been dreadful but we didn't lose due to him.

Leeds were clinical in punishing our errors, at 16-0 down it was then all uphill. The two quick scores brought us back into the game, only to concede again. I thought we were lucky to be only 10 points behind at HT.

The next score was obviously crucial....it looked dubious from where I was sat, I haven't seen a replay, and I couldn't get a good view of the screen, so can't comment any further.

The Leeds pack dominated ours in the first half, Burrow was always a danger, and Sinfield kicked us out of the game. Having to play catch-up always meant risks had to be taken.

Congratulations to Leeds, they were the better side on the day, and, in the end, deserved to win.



All efforts now to secure first place, get everyone fit, and have a go to get to Old Trafford.

How a Wigan side can be so poor and score so many beat me



Gives me hope for the rest of SL.

Too many errors, and the defence was pathetic at times.



I genuinely cannot remember the last time a team broke through a Wigan defence that frequently and easily.



That said, we all know that performance isn't reflective of Wigan so far this year, so if we go back to what we've been doing, we'll be there or thereabouts in October.

Worst we've played since the Huddersfield game on the opening weekend. No real go forward, terrible defence, no composure. Struggling to come up with a top 3.