the fans forum is going to be really interesting

When Wigan recovered from the early 80's slump, it took more than a change of coach.

The club had ambitious successful businessmen running it at director level.

You could have whoever you want coachig the side now but it won't change until the club is run more professionally.

And to answer Hogan's point, I no longer make the 400 mile round trip. If the club doesn't give a bugger, then neither will I.

Supprted since 1965, endured a 20 year dry spell in the challenge cup like others on here, but never felt the players were quite so apathetic.

Don't think I'll be going to Hull KR somehow...

A new, quality coach would be a good start, and a more realistic option than changing the club-owner. That isn't something you can do by clicking your fingers.

Cruncher, Don't totally disagree, but the solution will medium or long term, not short term.

We had some damn successful coaches from elsewhere back in the 70's slump who could do nothing at Wigan because of the shambles the club was in.

Vince Karalius told me it wasn't until he'd ben hired that they told him he didn't pick the team!

Word for word for how i'm thinking!

Big changes required to get me interested in getting a season ticket!

Otherwise I'll just pick and choose my games.

We got to our first CCup final in years in 1984 with Murphy in charge, he wasn't the answer either and was not in charge the year after. We had a stop gap in Clarke and McKinnes then Graham Lowe took over.



There is nothing that should keep Noble here next year, even winning cup and Grand Final, he's just not the right coach for Wigan.

As much as i would love us to win the cup, the thought of it ensuring BN gets a new deal does take the edge off it.



Hopefully the result at the weekend will be the final nail in the coffin and a new coach will be contracted for 2010 long before the semi let alone the final.

I was away at the weekend so thankfully missed my first game of the year! Had constant updates and tbh wasn't really suprised which says alot about where this clubs at.



The players attitudes stink and they don't look capable of getting themselves up for 70-80% of games and the buck has to stop with Noble. He makes the same noises every week after defeats and he won't pick players on merits. He picks on reputation whatever he says or over people may say and we won't move on like that. Even with a big squad the majority of fans can predict his 17 on any given week and it shouldn't be like that.



The final straw with me came after he dropped Sam for Salford last week so the result at the weekend did nothing but strenghen my belief on that score.



He should do until the end of the season, be patted on the back for getting us from the bottom of the table to a side that at least has potential ability about it and be shown the door.

I feel like that too.. But, if I didn't get a season ticket, something would be missing. Not sure what, because this year has been boring as owt, but it just wouldn't be right not to get a season ticket.

I fail to see the issue. Tompkins is a kid. He needs to be protected and thus will have to sit out some games (as Wheeler, Eastmond, Lomax, Ashurst et al are at Saints). Noble's only doing what any sensible coach would.

Yeah I can understand where you're coming from myself.



A BIG club that has a magnificent past and quite likely a pretty good future when it's all said and done but you can't be f*****g bothered to actually support them through a few barren years, can you.



I'll tell you what mate, try being a fan of Doncaster right now, our my club Hornets, we don't know where the next penny is coming from or if we'll even be in business next season and you're in the Challenge Cup semi-final.



Goodness me what a sanctimonious bunch of whingers you lot are, it's time to grow up and smell what you're shovelling and consider what it's like for fans who don't get even the success you're all moaning about.



Rochdale Hornets haven't had a game for three weeks as our pitch is up for repairs, we have no money coming in except for lottery cash and that won't keep us going alone.



I'll tell you one thing though, I will be at every match whether we play well or badly and I'll support every fund-raiser I can and put in as much cash as I can get past the wife because I love my team. I've supported them for 44 years probably before a lot of you were f*****g twinkles and success was getting spanked by Saints in the Cup!



If you've got more important things than Wigan then do them, my family know I had Hornets before them and they take their place as well as my club.



Some of you make me want to puke!



Pugwash.