Agreed. My post was meant as a last resort if he couldnt be convinced to stay. I certainly wouldnt loan him out to a SL club

Well if that is true and the consequence was him being dropped I think going public on it was an even bigger mistake. That just breeds animosity and once that sets in it is very hard to recover the situation.



While the two players may have approached this differently (or in Charnley's case it would seem his agent has set the ball rolling as agents do unfortunately) I don't actually see a great deal of difference in what either of them did.



If Charnley wanted an upgraded contract and was happy to stay with one I would not blame [ihim[/i if his [iagent[/i has handled this badly. If he just wanted to leave that is different and we are back to the same old situation of contracted player wanting away and how the club deals with it.

Had Wane kept his mouth shut this thread probably doesn't exist.



Mistake IMO.

Agree. Wane should just have said that he wanted to give another player (Manfredi) a run. I'm not 100% on this but I believe it was Charnley on radio Manchester who said he had been dropped, which may have forced Wane to comment.

Quote WARRIORCRAIG="WARRIORCRAIG"Looks like it's this story, the ex-scout saying which players he recommended but Salford didn't go in for, Charnley being one. www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... wn-6769043'" That article is nothing more than Barker bigging himself up

Quote WARRIORCRAIG="WARRIORCRAIG"Looks like it's this story, the ex-scout saying which players he recommended but Salford didn't go in for, Charnley being one. www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... wn-6769043'" That article is nothing more than Barker bigging himself up

I'm in two minds about this. If Shaun Wane doesn't talk to the media there will be no story. However if SW doesn't talk to the media there will be nothing in the media about Wigan at all. He is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.



Personally I prefer SWs dealings with the press to Madge's. But then they are totally different characters. I know that SW thinks of all the young lads as his - and he loves them all. In fact this is probably just his way of giving Josh some tough love.



I wouldn't be surprised to see Josh back in the team on Sunday - if he trains well this week.

Where/when did he say that?

Beat me to it.

Surely he is only damned if what he says causes problems?



I just think he is very direct and answers questions as put which is great if you are a journalist but sometimes discretion is called for.

Yes I agree. As I say he is like chalk and cheese compared with Madge. Perhaps somewhere in between would be ideal. SW gives good copy whereas Madge would treat every question like a live grenade.



I do love SW though, he wears his heart on his sleeve and his heart is most firmly with Wigan.

I hope I'm wrong but this is starting to feel like when Carney left. His attitude and "injuries" in his last season were one of the most unprofessional episodes I'd seen from a player at that time.

I just hope it's not another season-long "is you is, or is you ain't my baby" saga like last year.