A passage from the Wigan Reporter article last week: -

The feeling is spreading like swine flu. If we keep with the same going into next season, It will be reflected in the season ticket sales. You can have the best marketing team but if your selling cr*p, you wont have many buyers.

I posted after the Wakefield home game that my brother and nephew (not father and son) said it was abysmal and would not go again. People thought this was a premature decision but it has proved to be an enlightened decision and the rest of us who have remained loyal have had to put up with too much dross with only 2 or 3 enjoyable games.

I have been exceptionally lucky this season in regard to away games.

I've been to Harlequins, Murrayfield, Barrow, Warrington (friendly) and Wakefield (twice), seeing Wigan win each game. I have not been to any other away games. And I don't think I'll be going to any more unless we get a new coach.

I feel sorry for the fans who go to each away game. It isn't the losing. It's the manner in which we lose.

I've still to watch a team that doesn't have more planned moves than Wigan. Every team moves it wide along the backline, with 2 dummy runners, creating an overlap for their winger. It's obvious they have all copied this move. Why don't we!

I think the players get battered with our style of rugby and react by having a 'rest' in certain games ( e.g. Celtic away)

I was talking to an ex-professional who said he got fed up of getting battered and would rest himself some weeks (on the pitch). If we played a more expansive game with dummy runners we wouldn't get roughed up by gang tackles because the opposition wouldn't know who was receiving the ball

Hmm, not so sure about that. Every side in the competition (possibly with the exception of Celtic) has a player that would get in the Saints team. Don't think you could say that about the old Wigan sides. Maybe it's my memory though.



You have players like Burgess, Menzies, Morley, Mogg, Bird, Myler etc who aren't even in a playoff team.

Here we again but I blame the RFL, if we could just bring in some simple rules where by you can only have 3 overseas players, ie dont have british passports by 2011, and the 3 overseas players couldn't be of the same positions, meaning we as a club had to develop players for all positions.

There are a few questions asked in the League Express today in the Leeds v Huddersfield match report.

Basically what they are saying is that the teams are levelling out but the standard is levelling down.

I'm not surprised the level in that game was down without McGuire, Peacock, Hall, Moore and Crabtree.



I listened to it and it did sound very poor though.

i think he means levels are dropping across the board, not in that particular game



could be wrong though

I do, I was using that game as an example.

Noble may well have to leave now for the sake of the club and for himself imo.



I’d still like Wayne in until the end of the season just because no matter what he would do with team or what style we’d play under him we’d at least know he’d show the commitment and Wigan spirit we are currently lacking.



He shouldn’t get the job any longer than this season but I can’t see what extra damage he could inflict on us what Noble already isn’t doing now.



There is all this talk about the ‘Wigan RLFC’ culture being eroded to the point where newly retired players like Rads can’t see the same club which they left and I’d hope that appointing an ex player like Wayne would enable us to start clawing some of that spirit back. It would certainly make our next seasons coach’s job a hell of a lot easier if some of the hard work was done on the players attitudes now before he came in.



Who ever comes in next season I sincerely hope they A-have new ideas, B-are a firm disciplinarian and C- Bring in some new coaches behind the scenes and maybe appoint a local ex player to be his assistant in the same way Mike Greg came through. We need that type of no nonsense professional coach who will give a massive bollocking when it’s needed.

I know that, just think it was a poor example with the players missing but I see your point, it sounded awful.

I'm not here to take the micheal, honest.



Just to say: stick with it. That's the measure of a true fan. You've had worse times (losing to Fulham in the old 2nd division while the posh end of the borough were winning the league), and sure you've had plenty of much better times (World Club Champs in Brisbane is what I'd regard as your finest hour).



All sport it cyclical. It may get worse, it will get better. We're having our worse season for a fair while over at LSV, but we're positively bouyant compared to Keighley, Bramley, Rochdale, Swinton etc. Maybe it's not working out for Nobby, maybe you need a regime change, maybe it hurts when trolls like me pop out from under national league bridges to point and laugh.



But what you do need, now more than ever, is to turn up, take your medicine, support your team through the down times no matter how bad it gets, so you can claim your share of success when it comes around again. None of this 'I'm not going again' malarky. True fans know this and, regardless of the banter I'm happy to chuck at you from time to time, you piemunchers do have a lot of true fans.



Pip pip!