Copious post-match beers might be clouding my memory, but I saw a lot more than just one poor kick.



I'm not slagging him off at all, there has been a massive improvement elsewhere, especially in his defensive efforts and his passing game, and I expect that improvement to continue as he gains match fitness and gets used to the players around him.

Maguire knows the players better than anyone, he knows the job they can do for the team and the team looked better with Finch,Deacon and Leuluai on. Lima is playing ok I thought he played his best game yesterday, hammered and came back for more. The team will improve for that game and if the intensity of the St George game is back in the play offs I can see Old Trafford, but I would like a trip to Wembley

Please don't get me started about this guy! Not only is he a joker off the pitch but on it as well! Sorry he does not cut the mustard at all. I appreciate that some Aussies take time to settle in but this guy looks like he just cannot be ar$$d. I disagree with the view that if he was from Wigan we would be "up his booty", because on his performances to date we would definitely not be.

have to agree here, if it was a wigan lad some people on here would be ripping him apart, but as he is australian apparently he gets let of being crap.

Finch came back from injury too soon.

When he was picked for the Wire game it was unexpected and due to Deacs being ruled out through injury.

He only started contact training two days before the Wire game.

That was far too soon and it showed on the pitch well enough.

He is getting better every game and will continue to improve as the season goes on.

With him improving, Deacs back, Pat is also now in the team I think the performance levels will improve each week.

We also have Fielden to return and Hock will appear late June. Those two, given a couple of games, will make a massive difference to our pack. If the forwards can get back to their best of last year and the backs thrive off it then we could very well have an excellent season again.

i dont get this having to bed in stuff too,

if he is as good a player as people say he is then he shouldnt need time to bed in,

i just dont think its an excuse

Complete nonsense...player criticism has nothing to do with where a player comes from, and eveything to do with his performances.



5 games is simply not enough for a fair assessment, especially after coming back from a serious injury & operation.

John Ferguson and Brett Kenny didn't have to 'bed in' !

Depends on the player - some do, some don't. There are plenty of examples of imports who have taken a while to show their true class - Pat included; equally there are some, like Hoffman, who impress from day 1.

Can't believe people are on Finch's back after 5 games. Get a grip.



Gene Miles did sod all until mid-December in his one season at Wigan but he's talked about as a legend by many.



Craig Smith had an indifferent start in his first season but again, is always spoken highly about.



Pat's first season?

Gene Miles was poor in the first half of the season he was with us as he struggled to get over injuries... the rest (the masterclass in centre play that he delivered, the finest I have seen in club RL) is history. I'm not saying that I expect Finch to reach those levels but even an all time great of RL like Miles needed time to recuperate and get used to playing in this country. Why can't people just give Finch the benefit of the doubt for now?

by all accounts he is not settled in wigan and wants a move back to the nrl possibly ss bunnys according to reports in australia