Wigan are :-

3rd top try scorers

2nd top metre makers

top for offloads

3rd top for tackle busts

3rd top for clean breaks



With those stats we should not be in 8th position.



Missed goals and penalties conceded appear to be part of the reason.

I wonder where we are for missed tackles, knock-ons, knock-ons on the first tackle, knock-ons in our own red zone, kicking possession away, loss of concentration, general poor decision making, etc.



It's another big game tonight. We've got to show that we can back up from last week, and that we can put a decent team away. Another desperate scramble won't convince me that anything has changed, even if we take the points. We must play well in all aspects.

Very high cruncher.



Imagine we're near the top in the "tries conceded" league and near the bottom in the "chances converted" - we never seem to be able to get over the oppositions line, the times I've watched us this season I've always been left with the impression that giving the opposition two early tries we might as well have given them four or five. We don't seem capable of getting over the try line.

Just proves the saying....'There are lies, damn lies, and statistics'.........maybe some coaches shouldn't rely on them so much !!

When we've won games we've won them well in the main but when we've lost it's always been pretty close.



If only we could turn some of these close defeats into wins we'd be very very close to having a half decent side.



It's all about attitude.

Paaaaaat's form has definitely been off the mark with his goal kicking this year.



Obviously he's going to miss a few but compared to last year his conversion rate must be way down from the 80-odd percent he was getting.



It'd be interesting to see what, if any, games we might have one if he'd have kicked better.



Don't think it helped that earlier in the season our backup kickers proved to be about as good as my Mum (I'm looking at you Roberts and Riddell).

It might have something to do with the fact we can only score tries out wide off kicks...etc

I was going to say that, most of our tries have came out wide and you can see that on the other thread where Richards and Ainscough are clear of the rest in the try scoring.



However if Pat can do what he did on Sunday with Vella then he doesnt have to worry about kicking for the touchline

Did we score all our tries under the sticks last year? Richards was top try scorer from FB last year followed by Carmont at left centre.



Surely most of Carmont's tries were scored out on that left side.

I suppose it's something Bilko touched on yesterday saying we cannot hold our nerve in close games. We have not done as much wrong as we think. We should be in at least 5th with those stats.



We have lost 8 games in the league by 12 points or less most of those being by 8 points or less.



I am pretty sure with someone like Barrett in our team this season we would of come through most of these games with the win, especially games against Celtic, Wakey, Cas, Hull KR.

Just had a look at cherryandwhite.co.uk and it has Pat's goal kicking at 80.1% last season and 69.8% for this.

Surely that is down to where we are scoring our tries and not the reason we are losing games.