I've pretty much decided that I'm not going to attend many home games this year due to lack of atmosphere etc, but on the flipside, decided that I'm not going to miss any away games as there's just a better general buzz about the places we go and I prefer that.



I've also just bought some flares and red smoke bombs for some games to add to the atmosphere, does anybody know the rules on setting them off inside the grounds?

I believe it's actively encouraged.

So someone else who can't see the likely problems with his reasoning.....and i'm not talking about the flares. You will fund other teams but not leigh the club you allegedly support. The reason.....atmosphere. Why no atmosphere? because people don't come due to one convoluted excuse after another.



I would like our club/team to be around when the walls of Jericho finally fall. That is looking less and less likely as you all pull your funding for them for one 'reason' or another. It seems not even a winning team is enough.



One of the reasons I am not doing the forecast this season is that not enough people are willing to go that extra mile. When i asked if someone else would take it on..yep that's right not one offer of help. There are a few people who go that extra mile but not enough. We will never get a koukash where we are so its down to how much you all want a club. I've done my bit for now so now its time someone else showed willing IMO.



Honestly you all make me sick.



Support your local team or don't have one...SIMPLES. Rant over

Ah right, didn't realise we now lived in a dictatorship state in which we HAVE to support our local team financially and give our spare time to as you say 'go the extra mile'.



Last year was the first in probably 10 years i didn;t have a season ticket, I went to 2 or 3 games and this year don't ATM feel like even doing that. That however is my choice and if it makes you feel sick i'll post you a bag I once nicked off a flight so you don't make a mess on the LSV steps.

Suit yourselves. No financial support = no team. Nothing to do with dictatorship just reality.



From what i am hearing no team is possible in the near future.



I am not ordering anyone to attend as i said just pointing out the reality and consequences of your free choice. Unfortunately the club will not survive on messages of support. The reality is they need cash and quickly. I help as far as time and finances now allow.



Someone tell me if the following statement is incorrect in anyway whatsoever.



No Money = No Team.

Of course your statement is correct but guilt tripping past supporters is only going to push them further away IMO.



There are several reasons I do not attend (not all which are LCRLFC's fault) which I am not getting into, firstly because I don't care what you or anyone else thinks of my reasons not to attend and secondly and mainly becuase of certain posters on this board who just jump on anyone who do not agree with their point of view as you have already proved and ultimatley it is my choice whether to attend or not.

Derick is 100 per sent correct in his post, it is really this simple, very shortly it wont matter about atmsophere, as there wont be a club, simple as that, if we dont improve the attendances, more fans = better atmostphere.

Ideas to increase attendances is needed.

Circumstances beyond the clubs control( no P and R , the dual reg fiasco) are mainly the reason people no longer come or pick and choose which games to attend, however if we all only go to away games then there would soon be no club whatsoever.

Theres is still a few of us going the extra mile Derick, all the fans who attend games too, lottery members, Lisa members and Touchdown members, but its new income we require, we cant keep asking the same people all the time.

I know the lottery dept have tried some new things in trying to get extra money in, Lisa have tried as well with functions , raffles on coaches etc.

Don and Derick did their bit selling their raffle tickets , saving what they make and then they help out when money is needed. Sharon and John running the Junior Centurions are really working hard, they need more help though.

The psg and their members also try and help out

The forcast starts well every season and always seems to drop away end of the season, I for one enjoyed doing it and did try and help and would have carried on helping, its just theres not enough people willing to help to make it more of a sucess.

Part of the reason too for no atmostphere is theres not many "younguns" attending and its them that seem to start off the singin.

I go home and away because I have been a Leyther too long to get out of the habit. I still look forward to every game.



Have to say following your team only at away games is a sure fire way to ensure you soon won't be able to for the obvious reason our club would certainly go under.



Crowds make atmosphere at games and I hope you reconsider.

The LSV is a purpose built sports ground with all the regulations what go with it, number of seats limited standing and all the health and safety stuff.

LSV will never have the same atmosphere as Hilton Park even if there was 1,000 at Hilton Park it still had a good atmosphere.

LSV is what it is so its up to us supports to make the atmosphere, so let us all get to as many home games as we can and get behind our team.

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First of all, I think a massive woosh moment occurred around post 3 of this thread.



Secondly, I think some of the 'superfans' need to get their head out of their and realise that fairweather & lapsed fas are not the enemy. None of them woke up one day and thought '[iYou know what? I'm going to stop supporting Leigh as it'll bring about their demise sooner.[/i' None of them are actively trying to kill the club. Most of them would like the club to succeed. They make you sick? I hope the club doesn't have that attitude.



It's not as black & white as 'attend or the club will die'. You can't put a gun to someone's head and make them want to do something. There are underlying reasons why people don't go as often, most of it has been done to death on this very forum.



For me, it's all linked in a very vicious circle. Many people at this level have fallen out with Rugby League, they feel disenfranchised (pardon the pun) and become less inclined to attend matches home & away. This has impacted on crowds and atmosphere which impacts negatively on the sense of occasion. Couple this with increased entrance fees and the recession and it's little wonder why crowds are down.



Personally, I now ask myself if paying £16 a fortnight is value for money anymore. For that price I can take my girlfriend to the cinema for 3 hours or go for a cheap meal. I can spend 4 hours in the pub and drink 8 pints whilst socialising with family friends. If I want to do that whilst going to the rugby, the price starts racking up very quickly. Now, I'm not on a bad salary, so how must it be for people who can only just scrape by each week?



By all means, blame the lapsed supported for Leigh RL's problems, but your completely missing the point.