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| Quote jdrocket="jdrocket"
This, seriously, isn't me fishing, what is the root of this chant? One sentence answers may help, as most Sts fans are confusing themselves.'"
hmm - not sure if you're deliberately stupid or what, but anyway here's your sentence....
It's an amusing dig at warrington fans always bigging themselves up like they do every year, and every year it ends in failure.
ok - got it???
It's not about saints - it's about you. Any team could sing it to you - actually maybe they should - lets have every team in the league laughing at you and your over-confidence. Even feckin widnes could sing it to you next week and it would still be funny..
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| Quote gladiator1="gladiator1"hmm - not sure if you're deliberately stupid or what, but anyway here's your sentence....
It's an amusing dig at warrington fans always bigging themselves up like they do every year, and every year it ends in failure.
ok - got it???
It's not about saints - it's about you. Any team could sing it to you - actually maybe they should - lets have every team in the league laughing at you and your over-confidence. Even feckin widnes could sing it to you next week and it would still be funny..'"
Well, it has taken a while, but hopefully that will get through to our angry friend. I wouldn't bet on it mind.
Quote gladiator1="jdrocket"Every year you get through the playoffs and everyone says what Saints' chances are and then ever year they blow it!'"
This is my favourite part of it all. Coming from a Warrington fan, you just have to laugh
It really is, signature stuff.
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| Quote Back Row Singer="Back Row Singer"
This is my favourite part of it all. Coming from a Warrington fan, you just have to laugh
It really is, signature stuff.'"
We've only ever been in playoffs a few times and twice we have won a playoff game.
I don't see your point. For 5years Saints have reached the playoffs recently and 5 times they have been trophy-less.
In that time Warrington have been in the playoffs twice and have won the grand final as many times as you.
It is defo more fitting if it is sung at the Saints fans. Maybe this is your year, seriously.
If you don't mind, I would like to dissect that a little bit.
Quote Back Row Singerhmm - not sure if you're deliberately stupid or what, but anyway here's your sentence....
It's an amusing dig at warrington fans always bigging themselves up like they do every year, and every year it ends in failure.
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Okay so it is about fans bigging themselves up? Not the Sky people? That makes more sense. But surely every team bigs themselves up at the start of the season. I think you will notice from the guesstimate thread on here a few weeks back that Warrington fans are quite modest int heir views (I myself have put Saints top this and the previous year in my guesses)
Secondly, surely we have the reason to big ourselves up? We won the Challenge Cup for a second time last season and had reached the playoffs and this season we won the League Leaders shield and, arguably, did better than SAints did (destroying huddersfield and then losing by a smaller margin the eventual winners) Even if you don't agree we did better than the previous year. On the other hand, SAints haven't won anything in 3 years and Warrington are still above Saints in the table (for a second year)
I think the only team that can rightfully big themselves up this year are Leeds, the rest didn't win. So saints fans are as guilty or guiltier of that mistake than Warrington fans
Quote Back Row SingerIt's not about saints - it's about you. Any team could sing it to you - actually maybe they should - lets have every team in the league laughing at you and your over-confidence. Even feckin widnes could sing it to you next week and it would still be funny..'"
You see the problem with your sentence (and therefore this paragraph) is you haven't defined anything, and I think this is key.
Warrington have won 3 trophies in 3 years, SAints have won none. All the failure is on that side of the the EAst LAncs.
Now can someone try ONE MORE TIME (and seen as you lot have failed so miserably so far, in 4 words or less) what is it about (I'll even give you options)
Reaching the Grand Final
Winning the Grand Final
Winning anything
League Position
Rear of the year?
Somebody tell me
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| Quote Paul Thexton="Paul Thexton"I just saw the song as light hearted banter and made me chuckle a bit inside (I didn't dare profess amusement at the time since I almost got lynched by those around me for describing saints' opening try as "well worked"
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Edit: just to note, I thought it was amusing because it reminded me of making statements in March/April for many, many seasons of "oh well, there's always next year"
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Pretty much spot on..... The amount of times I've been glared at by fellow Warrington fans because I dared to applaud the opposition for some good rugby is unbelievable.
Personally I thought the chant was funny, but then I also laughed the year we had Johns and Hull knocked us out of the play offs and their fans were singing "Joeys going home"
Lighten up people. Recent incidents in football should make us all realise it's only a game.
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| Anybody laughing at saints who have been in the last 6 grand finals is a complete cretin. It just shows their ability to consistently remain there or thereabouts at the business end of the season no matter what problems (see Kyle Eastmomd) they have during the regular rounds. Ok, so they have lost the last 5, big deal, if we had done the same our fans would be making sure everyone knew about it. I haven't bothered to read this entire thread thoroughly as it is embarrassing, but i am sure somebody said they would rather win the LLS again than get to the grand final, unbelievable!
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| Quote Moe syslak="Moe syslak"Anybody laughing at saints who have been in the last 6 grand finals is a complete cretin. It just shows their ability to consistently remain there or thereabouts at the business end of the season no matter what problems (see Kyle Eastmomd) they have during the regular rounds. Ok, so they have lost the last 5, big deal, if we had done the same our fans would be making sure everyone knew about it. I haven't bothered to read this entire thread thoroughly as it is embarrassing, but i am sure somebody said they would rather win the LLS again than get to the grand final, unbelievable!'"
I don't think anyone is laughing at them and I don't know if anyone said that.
Someone said that they,a s a football fan, saw the work that goes into the LLS.
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| Quote jdrocket="jdrocket"Today, I received a phone call off a St Helens supporter gleefully bragging about 'the new chant'. Apparently it goes something like 'it's always your year' or something. Could someone explain to me please.
I quizzed the person on the phone and they assured me it wasn't about winning trophies (Something Saints haven't done in 3 years- while Warrington are 3 in 3 in that respect) or winning Grand Finals (something Saints haven't done in almost 6 years)
So I was wondering, what is it?
It may be '[our year' to beat Saints but we did that last year. Or it could be 'our year' to reach a Grand final; but why would Saints applaud 5 years of failure. I'm so confused.
This is a serious question!'"
I am finding it difficult to decide whether you are thick, stubborn, biased or a very good wind-up merchant. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say I'm guessing you are probably a mixture of the latter 3.
Now, 99% of the Warrington fans on here understand what the song meant and can see it as a humorous bit of banter. See Horatio Yed for example. He found it funny. You on the other hand have spectacularly spat your dummy out due the fact you lost, and by trying to dissect the song and ask for some sort of meaning, you are making yourself look very very silly.
However, to remove any doubt or confusion you may have, I will answer your question in a clear and simple way for you.
For the last few years, around January/February, certain sections of the media, and certain Warrington fans, claim that that particular year will be Warrington's year, in terms of being Champions. Not wining the cup, not finishing top, but winning the grand final and being champions. So that is what the line "its always your year" refers to. You still with me? Now, seeing as you are yet to win a grand final and be crowned Super League champions, the line "just like the last one" is a sarcastic reference to the fact that it has not yet been your year.
There is no reference to our own failings in recent Grand Finals, so your insistence on bringing this up is somewhat baffling.
I am fairly certain that even if you are a little bit thick, which I optimistically predicted you aren't in my opening sentence, then you will still be able to understand all of the above and you can now get on with the rest of your weekend a little happier.
I'm just glad that Warrington have fans who have a sense of humour and can take the song in question as a bit of banter, which I'm sure was the manner in which it was intended.
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| Quote jdrocket="jdrocket" Would I rather get there than win another LLS? Maybe. a trophy of any kind is better than an appearance in the GF.'"
It seems it was your good self who would rather win the LLS again than get to Old Trafford. Seriously, would you rather finish top and go out in the same manner as last year or come third, get to the GF and have a chance of winning the damn thing? Personally, i don't think we handle the pressure of the play-offs very well, especially with senior players knowing their careers are almost done. Finising top this year will just heap even more pressure on us to win it. Third or fourth will do me just fine.
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| Quote The Yellow Giraffe="The Yellow Giraffe"I am finding it difficult to decide whether you are thick, stubborn, biased or a very good wind-up merchant. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say I'm guessing you are probably a mixture of the latter 3.
Now, 99% of the Warrington fans on here understand what the song meant and can see it as a humorous bit of banter. See Horatio Yed for example. He found it funny. You on the other hand have spectacularly spat your dummy out due the fact you lost, and by trying to dissect the song and ask for some sort of meaning, you are making yourself look very very silly.
However, to remove any doubt or confusion you may have, I will answer your question in a clear and simple way for you.
For the last few years, around January/February, certain sections of the media, and certain Warrington fans, claim that that particular year will be Warrington's year, in terms of being Champions. Not wining the cup, not finishing top, but winning the grand final and being champions. So that is what the line "its always your year" refers to. You still with me? Now, seeing as you are yet to win a grand final and be crowned Super League champions, the line "just like the last one" is a sarcastic reference to the fact that it has not yet been your year.
There is no reference to our own failings in recent Grand Finals, so your insistence on bringing this up is somewhat baffling.
I am fairly certain that even if you are a little bit thick, which I optimistically predicted you aren't in my opening sentence, then you will still be able to understand all of the above and you can now get on with the rest of your weekend a little happier.
I'm just glad that Warrington have fans who have a sense of humour and can take the song in question as a bit of banter, which I'm sure was the manner in which it was intended.'"
You haven't really added anything new. But, you have clarified slightly.
The point is I don't know who Saints fans are directing it towards- Sky or Warrington fans? You mention both. You should really pick one.
The second point can be summed up with 'those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones'. Imagine if Wakefield or Widnes (no offense) started singing that song at us. It would be laughable. Now on a smaller scale, Saints (who are most famous of late for losing Grand finals) are mocking us for not winning one when we have only been in the playoffs 3 times. Plus, most Warrignton fans are very aware of other team's capabilities or over estimate them (as I said I thought Saints would be top this year and last)
But, although you didn't use 4 words, you have cleared it up. It is about winning grand finals, correct? Okay. You do Know for that last half decade both Warrington and Saints have won the same number of Grand Finals, right?
This has been cleared up, slightly! Good luck next week. I think you might ebat Wigan who have looked as bad as Warrington this season.
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| Quote The Yellow Giraffe="The Yellow Giraffe"I am finding it difficult to decide whether you are thick, stubborn, biased or a very good wind-up merchant. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say I'm guessing you are probably a mixture of the latter 3.
Now, 99% of the Warrington fans on here understand what the song meant and can see it as a humorous bit of banter. See Horatio Yed for example. He found it funny. You on the other hand have spectacularly spat your dummy out due the fact you lost, and by trying to dissect the song and ask for some sort of meaning, you are making yourself look very very silly.
However, to remove any doubt or confusion you may have, I will answer your question in a clear and simple way for you.
For the last few years, around January/February, certain sections of the media, and certain Warrington fans, claim that that particular year will be Warrington's year, in terms of being Champions. Not wining the cup, not finishing top, but winning the grand final and being champions. So that is what the line "its always your year" refers to. You still with me? Now, seeing as you are yet to win a grand final and be crowned Super League champions, the line "just like the last one" is a sarcastic reference to the fact that it has not yet been your year.
There is no reference to our own failings in recent Grand Finals, so your insistence on bringing this up is somewhat baffling.
I am fairly certain that even if you are a little bit thick, which I optimistically predicted you aren't in my opening sentence, then you will still be able to understand all of the above and you can now get on with the rest of your weekend a little happier.
I'm just glad that Warrington have fans who have a sense of humour and can take the song in question as a bit of banter, which I'm sure was the manner in which it was intended.'"
To reminisce the reaction of the St Helens fans in the West Stand on Friday night, who were 'as quiet as a mouse', hence why the majority of the people I saw on Saturday could barely speak..

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| Quote Moe syslak="Moe syslak"It seems it was your good self who would rather win the LLS again than get to Old Trafford. Seriously, would you rather finish top and go out in the same manner as last year or come third, get to the GF and have a chance of winning the damn thing? Personally, i don't think we handle the pressure of the play-offs very well, especially with senior players knowing their careers are almost done. Finising top this year will just heap even more pressure on us to win it. Third or fourth will do me just fine.'"
Could you quote me on that because that is the opposite of what I have been saying.
I will reiterate what I have said previously in bullet point form.
I enjoyed winning the LLS last year
I think it validated the efforts of the team and the fans
It is hard to get
I would rather win the CC next year than finish top
I would rather finish 2nd or 3rd to, hopefully, relieve the burden of club call (which killed us last year)
The season starts in September.
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