If you had told me last year that we would be second in the league, and in another semi, I would have taken that.

Against Wigan at the HJ, we were leading 16 points to 4 until Briers went off and we had a mad 13 minutes before Monas came back on.

At KR we scored the same number of tries as Saints, but the goalkicking let us down.

Against Leeds, we had them beaten at half time then let them back into it.



On Saturday, we allowed Saints to play the ball too quickly and it killed us down the middle. All good teams, including Saints slow the PTB down and reset their defence. I know a lot of people don't like it, especially when Wigan do it, but it is effective and within the laws of the game. Our PTB is still not fast enough.

We could go on nit picking, but we are still second and at Widnes on Sunday. Considering where we were when TS arrived, I'd call it a near miraculous transformation.

Give us a goalkicker next season, and who knows.

It is better to travel than arrive!

This season will be our best league finish in SL era. We are the semi of the cup.



We are the most competetive we have been in 20 years.



We can still get 2nd in the league.



Who thought that was possible in February?

Sod the red V and sod the rest of them



Bring them on.

Spurs failed to beat Chelsea in league games between the two from 1990 to 2006.

Did I imagine Warrington beating Wigan away a couple of weeks ago? We have no divine right to beat these teams but neither do we have some sort of divine right to lose to them. All concept of a magical 'hoodoo' is ridiculous.



Nobody seems to have noticed just how much St Helens raised their game against us on Saturday, they haven't played as well as that for months.

People keep moaning about needing a better kicker.....but benny has done a great job last few games, must have one of, if not the best ratio in the league right now, and his kick from near the half way line before half time on saturday was nothing short of sensational!



Also 2nd in the league and in the semis of the challenge cup...yes the saints hoodoo continues but some people are never happy! We have made massive progress and lets hope this progress continues with THE FANS SUPPORT, so stop your moaning and get behind the players to give them a confidence boost that may just be the difference between a win and a loss against Saints in any playoff/cup games that we may have in the remainder of the season!

Actually i don't rate Wigan that much, i know they are currently sitting top of the league but they strike me as very workman like (ala huddersfield last season) and have done nothing for the last few seasons. When i talk about the teams that matter, i'm talking about the teams that have won things and the teams that we'll have to beat to win trophies.

Shame he had to miss that kick as his one before half time from over 40 metres out was awesome from someone who has only been kicking recently, but because he missed that last one he hasn't got much praise for it.

I'm so bored of this 'beat Leeds and Saints' rubbish, blah, blah. The more you lot rant on about it the more of an issue it becomes.



So beating a top team is everything is it? So why then are you not taking into account that we beat THE top team at this present moment, at THEIR ground?



Good start wouldn't you say?

Must admit I had high hopes in February.

Yes we have. We played that well against Wigan (twice) and Leeds (twice) and you at Knowsley Road. One of the gripes of many Saints fans this season is pretty much the only time we have raised our game and played almost as well as we are capable (because we were very lax with covering the ball on Saturday) is against you, Wigan and Leeds. It's meant a goodly number of dull to extremely dull games for Saints fans.



We have a small hoodoo. We can't beat Leeds in Grand Finals but I suppose that doesn't count.



I think what Wire are perhaps suffering from is (a) over-anxiety: they know the fans want them to win, they know they want to win, and they lose the plot slightly as a result (they don't bottle it; they over-egg the pudding) and/or (b) you play a very similar style of rugby to Saints but we tend towards the middle while you tend towards the edges. To counteract us your players need to be more aware of the danger down the middle. Alternatively, just kick to Meli. That usually works!

Aye, but spurs turned them over when it really mattered in the Carling Cup final at wembley. Personally, i want it to be saints if we make the final and i even wanted them last year. Just 1 win in a final will hurt them more than any of these league matches have hurt us. Bring on the 28th of August!!