It doesn't work like that though does it?



At the start of the season, all the top sides aim to win the Grand Final. You never know what will happen the following year.



The fact that we lost 3 in a row, and got there again.. lost 4 in a row, and got there again etc..

shows real desire and bravery.



I actually want a cup run this year and a break from Old Trafford, we need a clean slate. But still, to keep getting back there year after year despite the losing streak, is a phenominal achievement that should not be underestimated.



Especially when you consider it's always your year









This pretty much sums up the level of frustration and bitterness expressed in your posts





It's always your year

It's always your yeeaaarr..

Just like the last one

It's always your year

I defended the LLS but it's nothing to do with never winning the GF. I defended it because I'm a football fan first and my natural tendency is to view the league as the great achievement; I can't understand how any sport can view a short, domestic K.O. competition, as a greater achievement than winning a competition decided over 27 rounds of home and away games between all of the sides. I'm not saying the GF should be disregarded - Leeds' finish was stunning last season - but greater than finishing top of the pile after 27 rounds? Nah.



As a Wire fan, I'd like to see us win the GF and I'd be stupendously proud if we did, but I wouldn't go around rubbing it in the face of other clubs claiming they're crap or that 27 rounds of brilliance means nothing if you can't win three on the bounce at the season's end. It's the nature of sport fans to knock the achievements of others and big up the achievements of their own, but it seems to be something done by RL fans universally in their knocking of the LLS. For me, Leeds winning the GF was no greater an achievement than Wigan winning the CC, but Leeds will be claimed the 'Super League Champions', when really, they should be the Grand Final Winners.



By the way, there's no bitterness involved, I just find it mad how the hardest achievement seems to be viewed as a nothing achievement, yet we all buy season tickets to see our team play in that competition and hope the team wins every game in that competition. It's just weird.

I have to ask, did you come up with the chant?

Also, Back Row Singer, wise move on not using your brain to challenge what I wrote. You don't want people knowing you're an idiot for sure, do you?

You're spot on, it doesn't work like that. But I was just working on a theory of how knowledge before an event would produce a different opinion to after the event. As you said your opinion after losing lots of Grand Finals is to say that it shows real desire and bravery. Whereas had you known that you were going to lose lots of grand finals beforehand you would have probably thrown yourself under a bus or something. I honestly can't imagine anything more disappointing than that in RL sporting terms.

This entire thread just smells of paranoia.



Don't worry, it's not over yet, but if you can't take the singing on the terraces, well I would certainly not try to over analyse each song on an internet forum.



Maybe you would also like to discuss the validity of the LMS song, or the ade gardner song, or the Roby song, or the Saints light up my senses song.



Or in the end you could just accept you have been hooked by some fans singing a song and it along with the loss has bothered you so much you have had to create a thread to vent your small frustrations.



If you are going to analyse any song light up my senses makes the least sense as hardly any of the featured points of the song are actually relevant any more.

I just saw the song as light hearted banter and made me chuckle a bit inside (I didn't dare profess amusement at the time since I almost got lynched by those around me for describing saints' opening try as "well worked"

)



Edit: just to note, I thought it was amusing because it reminded me of making statements in March/April for many, many seasons of "oh well, there's always next year"

Jeez fella it's just a thread. Making out that it's any more than that is obviously your aim. Chill out and move on.

Mate, if you can't work it out then you must be absolutely thick as.....

Let me explain seeing you're finding it so hard - every year going back well as long as i can remember we have warrington fans telling us how this year they've got the players, the coach, the squad - the time is right for it to be "their year". It's always the same - and it's always the same that you fail to reach the GF let alone win it. Really is one of the season highlights - warrington confidence followed by a few flat track blow outs - followed by failing to get to the big night and watching it on tv again!!!





Plus that chant has obviously touched a nerve - and that's because you know very well that there's more than a hint of truth behind it.

So it is in reference to winning grand finals? well you haven't done that for 5 years. So, really, it seems that the chant would be better chanted at Sts fans.



It's always their year to go one step further and finally win the bloody thing. Every year you get through the playoffs and everyone says what Saints' chances are and then ever year they blow it!



Just admit the chant makes no sense coming from a team that have recently failed to win anything.



Wigan fans could get away with singing it, Leeds fans could really get away with singing it, Saints fans simply can't.



It's either about winning grand finals (something Saints haven't done since I was chasing girls in high school) or reaching Grand Finals (a very sad occasion where all Saints can celebrate of late is LOSING 5 on the bounce)



I would really like a clear definitive answer, as most people have just said some wishy washy thing about having the team or some obscure reference to Grand Finals.



This, seriously, isn't me fishing, what is the root of this chant? One sentence answers may help, as most Sts fans are confusing themselves.

I'm with you on this, many a time i've had a strange look in the crowd, love the banter of some of the chants, thought it was funny.



A high-ish shot around the shoulders and our fans have gone mad

i say "nah shoulders that"

Or a well worked opposition try that i've praised or big hit or last ditch tackle by them.



Always look at a game like a ref and a neutral combined, just need to learn not to vocalise it

I dont think Any Wire fans are BITTER about not Reaching a grand final. its not as if we have been harshly done by in the playoffs weve been fairly dumped out on every occassion.



We could be bitter about not being Champions in 1994 when we finished joint top on the same number of points as wigan and Bradford and were robbed of a Win against Wigan By referee Russel Smith. thats the only Bitterness a wire fan can have.



Personally I think a lot of the leeds Saints and Wigan Fans have some bitterness towards Warrington because we ARE one of the top clubs in the Superleague on and off the pitch.



but your right on the last point I have always maintained the WC challenge is a mickey mouse pre season friendly in which the Aussies dont care much for it. It has no real tradition in the game being played on and off for a few years before being invented again by sky TV just 12 years ago. basically its crap.



then again should we ever win it ........