I'm not sure we have in terms of performances.

Because to be honest I don’t really care what other teams do! Especially ones which aren’t in the same division! The only thing relevant to how Warrington perform is Warrington itself.

You can't learn anything with blinkers like that!



If you aren't interested in other teams, fine, don't get involved in the discussion.



One of my points were that there are plenty of teams out there who have struggled and have turned it round, or will turn it round. I am confident that we have the ability to do the same.



Anyway, this was a positive thread, there are plenty of negative ones for you to go on.

How am I being negative you fool? Just because you labelled your thread optimistic doesn’t mean anyone who disagrees with you is pessimistic! I just firmly believe that only Warrington can turn around there form and need to believe in themselves rather that looking at irrelevant results/performances of other clubs! We spend far to long looking and comparing ourselves to other clubs when we should concentrate on our own strengths and be looking to use them to turn around our season.

If you lack confidence and can't see a way out, it is good to look around at others and learn from them.



At the moment, things look bad for us, however we can learn things from the likes of Salford and Toulouse, who have worked hard to turn things round.



We can also use history to see examples of where we have turned it round.



By refusing to acknowledge what else is going on out there makes you blinkered and seeing that it is possible (as is being proven at other clubs) can help to build up confidence.

Gordon Brown could use a new spin doctor - I reckon Dave T's the man for the job.

I honestly thought you would see a response from the team after the poor showing on Friday. In any level of sport, you would normally expect to see some heart and pride on display and a desire to make up for the disappointment of a previous defeat.



The fact Warrington didn't speaks volumes.

i am also upbeat about the future we have a very good coach in ts the best we've had for years but i would like to see massive changes in the squad next year too many players heads went down yesterday not the attitude i want to see although our fans didnt help

Yesterday's performance wasn't the worst i've seen by Warrington by a long way. The pack had a good game just our half backs didn't create the opening for the backs the forwards work deserved.

Actually this year, of all the SL seasons, I think most clubs are showing some inconsistent form. Odd results springing up everywhere.



To add to the optimistic view there is of course no relegation. So if ever there were a time to have a poor run, it is now. Equally, if Smith needs to do some radical changes, and he seems to have started that ball rolling, then now is the time to do it. There are bound to be hiccups along the way, I just hope our fans have the stomach for a fight. Quite frankly booing at half time, when we were only 6 points down to a team on better form is ridiculous. But no worries they will return to optimistic cheering once our form has returned.

I think my main positive is Matt King. The reason for this being that he gives me hope that things can change. In front of my eyes, I've seen what a bit of confidence can do for an individual, and this leads me to believe that for the likes of Monaghan, L.Anderson etc, there is still hope.



Last year, Matt King literally couldn't even catch the ball. He was clueless at one point during the season. Right now, he looks to be be enjoying it out there, bumping defenders off and looking very much like the centre we thought we'd all signed. If his form continues until Rd27, he'll go a long, long way towards redeeming himself for last year, and will be a favourite amongst the fans for sure.



It's this upturn in fortune that keeps me going, players should look at him & think 'Look how quickly things have turned around for him, I'm gonna make that happen for me.'

Yeah Kingy is really ripping SL apart isn't he