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| Quote Jonesy="Jonesy"Is King better now than he was in 2007, now at 30 years of age?
Has his time in England improved his game to a standard higher than what is available from the NRL?
The game in Australia continually moves forward.
In the defence regimented NRL he scored 60 tries in 90 games
In England he has around 48 from 91, plenty of variables there but if he can not average better in England than Australia he is unlikely to make a massive impact.
The bottom half of the teams in SL should be a carve up for a top player.'"
63 in 95 actually, and i'd say for about 30 of them games we were gash 08/09
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| Quote Dunbar="Dunbar"
When Matt King came to the UK he had played 9 times for NSW and 10 times for Australia, he was in his 20’s and [uright on top of his game[/u'"
He had a suspect shoulder from what I remember and no NRL clubs would give him a decent contract so he came to Warrington.
When you factor in the exchange rate back then it made sense for him to play superleague.
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| Quote PHIPPS="PHIPPS"He had a suspect shoulder from what I remember and no NRL clubs would give him a decent contract so he came to Warrington.
When you factor in the exchange rate back then it made sense for him to play superleague.'"
No NRL Clubs were offering a Winger/rookie Club Centre 1/2 a million dollars a year for a four year contract.
Four year contracts are uncommon in the NRL most are at most three years, he grabbed the deal and good luck to him,
Form is a fickle thing and he sold himself at the peak of his reputation, in the NRL he could have easily been not picked at State or Test level again and his price would reflect that.
He was a Test player but he was not a player that could make things happen, he was a Player that could find the line and power over.
Great if you have a well oiled machine feeding that tool, not quite as great when a Club with a mixed bag expect that player to turn a game.
No disrespect to Warrington but when King was running over for those tries look who was in the team.
Inglis
Folau
Cronk
Slater
Cam Smith
A Forward pack that were 50% Test players for Oz or NZ
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| Why so negative?
King had a dodgy first SL season but has been class ever since. He will go back to the NRL and play top level for another 2-3 years, nothing wrong with that.
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| Quote Big Ask="Big Ask"Why so negative?
King had a dodgy first SL season but has been class ever since. He will go back to the NRL and play top level for another 2-3 years, nothing wrong with that.'"
Not negative.
Just answering the question will King Play for NSW or Oz again.
He will not in my opinion.
What I posted was just the facts.
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| Quote Jonesy="Jonesy"What I posted was just the facts.'"
In what sense are the following ‘facts’?
Quote Jonesy="Jonesy"I doubt it. Snowballs chance.'"
Quote Jonesy="Jonesy"Lote Tuqiri would get a spot before King if they wanted veterans.'"
Quote Jonesy="Jonesy"King is not as good now at 30 as he was 4 years ago. '"
Quote Jonesy="Jonesy"Will he play for Australia again? I don't think so.'"
Quote Jonesy="Jonesy"The bottom half of the teams in SL should be a carve up for a top player.'"
Quote Jonesy="Jonesy"He was a Test player but he was not a player that could make things happen, he was a Player that could find the line and power over.'"
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| Quote Dunbar="Dunbar"
I would guess that if we were having this conversation in 2008 just before King came over, as a current NSW and Kangaroo representative you would have rated him as one of the top players that would carve up the bottom half of Super league (in actuality, the Wire fans all wanted him packed up home in his first season)'" When King was announced a Wire I remember a poster, allegedly au fait with the Aussie players and NRL, stating "If you think Jamie Lyon was good, wait until you see Matt King!"
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| Quote Offside Monkey="Offside Monkey"When King was announced a Wire I remember a poster, allegedly au fait with the Aussie players and NRL, stating "If you think Jamie Lyon was good, wait until you see Matt King!"'"
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| Quote Oxford Exile="Oxford Exile"and?'"
And he wasn't even as good as Jamie Field
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| And now his SL strike rate for last year and this year is 29 tries in 33. Plus 16 try assists. 5th top tackle buster last year too.
So yes he had a bad start, but he's done well under Tony Smith.
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| Quote Jonesy="Jonesy"In the defence regimented NRL he scored 60 tries in 90 games'"
After watching 35 year old prop Petero Civoniceva side step his way under the posts last week, I would suggest that any decent player would get a hat full in the ‘defence regimented NRL’!
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| Kings not in the same class as Lyon and thats what people thought he was. Once we got over his price tag he's gone okay in the SL, one of the better centres but certainly not value for money
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