Dally,

As a fellow Aussie can I ask you to give it up Mate.



You "patrol" two forums and blanket them with your opinions to the point of suffocating any other debate.

Unless you are incapacitated and this is your main focus in life its time to get a life Matey.

I have never like the term "Ugly Aussie" and always thought it was bullsh@t but you are making me think there is some truth in it.

Get onto "Sportal" forums and get a robust debate going there.

We must agree to differ - on the half backs you had little option the stats made your claims look stupid. The rest is a matter of conjecture - your view against mine - who is right and who is wrong cannot be agreed.



On Hindmarsh if I had said he was a bad defender OK but I didn't - all I did was compare one missed tackle with another.



On Finch you think because he kicked a drop goal in an origin game 3 years ago that makes him a good player - I don't agree on what I see on the TV - that is a matter of opinion.



On Smith you think because he won the Dally M rookie in 2005 that makes him a good player now - I pointed out his recent form has been poor a point even you agreed with - whether he can recapture the form of 2005 even you don't know - I have seen Smith live 5 times and his influence on the result has been non-existent going forward but calamitous in defence. I am basing my opinion on the here and now you are basing your opinion on form of 3/4 years ago.

ill repeat what i said before.



if you dont like it, why dont you choose not to read it.



its not too hard is it.

so basically even though i can admit im wrong, you cant.



yeah, i can see why we have pages and pages.



especially when your views are so clueless on the nrl.



the funny thing is, its not as if you are close.



nathan hindmarsh is one of the best tacklers in the nrl.



any idiot knows it.

as i said before picking the lowest figures and not the average is hardly a fair way to do it.



if you want a proper debate, just go with the average rather than picking mickey mouse figures.

Calm down - where on this thread did I say Hindmarsh was not a good tackler - just simply quote me from this thread it cannot be that difficult?



What else have I got factually wrong - quote me from this thread and I have no problem admitting I am wrong - the fact that you may not agree with my views do do not make them wrong nor does it make yours right they just differ - I have explained the differences between my view on Smith and Finch to yours - but now you have once again been backed into a corner on these they are now being ignored just like the claim about the tackling half backs - the only leverage you see is Hindmarsh so you are pursuising that in preference to the other two and McGuire - sadly for you that avenue is just about to close too!!

He is simply offering you some practical advice - just take it on board - soon you will have nobody to debate against if you continue in this vein

i post the same way on another forum except there you dont get english fans trying to outdo aussie fans on the nrl. they accept where they dont have a clue and dont talk BS.



i just see people posting absolute BS and reply.



if people dont want to debate, thats perfectly fine by me.



i started this thread, not anyone else, so nobody forced anyone onto this thread. pick another thread there are loads of others.



im trying to provide additional information which i get access to which you people dont ie the australian media and magazines. if people dont appreciate this information, then dont bother responding

the last 5 pages of debate came from a couple of lines i said on mcguire



i didnt say he was a poor player and i didnt say he couldnt make it in the nrl.



but some people have a large chip on their shoulder and then just ran with it.



i noticed that most people that watch the nrl, including people of english background all doubted whether mcguire would get a spot at 6 in the nrl.

In your view you appear to think you are the only person who knows anything about the NRL - to simply discount everybody's elses view especially UK based posters is bordering on arrogance/stupidity.



Even the so-called experts who have played the game at international level cannot agree so what makes you think you have all the answers - a number of your posts have been exposed as being factually incorrect.



The most annoying thing about your posts is that you are not prepared to debate you will wriggle when pushed into a corner and change the subject and try to deflect away from areas where you know you are on rocky ground - in that respect you remind me of my youngest son it is possible you are the same age group.



You have a credibility issue on this site and the RL express site that you need to address - could I suggest you stick to the facts and achieve some personal humility and some respect for other posters

I have doubted that myself - the only difference I don't think it is his defence that is the issue which you do.

The problem is Dally, how do I ignore you?

You are on nearly every thread and your line is nearly the same on those posts.

Its a bit like weeds taking over the garden.