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No but he's better there than King.
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Not to mention up and comers and regulars.
Jharal Yow Yeh
Darius Boyd
Brett Morris
Australia has never had issues putting players that are finishers out of position on the Wing like Hayne (although he was a Club Winger for a good part of his career) or even Brett Stewart.
Lote Tuqiri would get a spot before King if they wanted veterans.
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I wonder where Talanoa will end up.
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probably warrington...... we have loads of space left on our cap. |
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Theres no way he is getting back into the Australia squad. mabye the NSW one though
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Quote Jonesy="Jonesy"Not to mention up and comers and regulars.
Jharal Yow Yeh
Darius Boyd
Brett Morris
Australia has never had issues putting players that are finishers out of position on the Wing like Hayne (although he was a Club Winger for a good part of his career) or even Brett Stewart.
Lote Tuqiri would get a spot before King if they wanted veterans.'"
Are we back on that this tiring argument again
When Matt King came to the UK he had played 9 times for NSW and 10 times for Australia, he was in his 20’s and right on top of his game
Let me remind you of the impact that he had in the UK when he arrived... news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 946498.stm
The two main differences between the players you have mentioned above and Matt King is that they haven’t played as much representative football as King and they haven’t played regularly in the UK for us to see the weaknesses in their game
Of course, this is discounting the fact that Australian players apparently get bigger, taller, faster and more skilful as they fly back to Australia (is it some kind of Super Hero thing where they draw strength from the Gamma rays emitting from Bondi Beach?) |
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Quote Jonesy="Jonesy"Not to mention up and comers and regulars.
Jharal Yow Yeh
Darius Boyd
Brett Morris
Australia has never had issues putting players that are finishers out of position on the Wing like Hayne (although he was a Club Winger for a good part of his career) or even Brett Stewart.
Lote Tuqiri would get a spot before King if they wanted veterans.'"
Are we back on that this tiring argument again
When Matt King came to the UK he had played 9 times for NSW and 10 times for Australia, he was in his 20’s and right on top of his game
Let me remind you of the impact that he had in the UK when he arrived... news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 946498.stm
The two main differences between the players you have mentioned above and Matt King is that they haven’t played as much representative football as King and they haven’t played regularly in the UK for us to see the weaknesses in their game
Of course, this is discounting the fact that Australian players apparently get bigger, taller, faster and more skilful as they fly back to Australia (is it some kind of Super Hero thing where they draw strength from the Gamma rays emitting from Bondi Beach?) | |
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Quote Dunbar="Dunbar"Are we back on that this tiring argument again
When Matt King came to the UK he had played 9 times for NSW and 10 times for Australia, he was in his 20’s and right on top of his game
Let me remind you of the impact that he had in the UK when he arrived... news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 946498.stm
The two main differences between the players you have mentioned above and Matt King is that they haven’t played as much representative football as King and they haven’t played regularly in the UK for us to see the weaknesses in their game
Of course, this is discounting the fact that Australian players apparently get bigger, taller, faster and more skilful as they fly back to Australia (is it some kind of Super Hero thing where they draw strength from the Gamma rays emitting from Bondi Beach?)'"
What I can not give an opinion?
King is not as good now at 30 as he was 4 years ago.
He did play for Australia and went ok but he was always on the end of a team with fantastic distribution at the Storm, NSW and Oz, he was a good finisher.
Warrington seemed to think he was a strike player that would do things on his own like an Inglis.
The unrealistic expectations and culture shock and combined with poor service from his inside players led to what developed in his first season.
Was he a player that made things happen on his own? I don't think so.
Will he play for Australia again? I don't think so.
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Quote Dunbar="Dunbar"Are we back on that this tiring argument again
When Matt King came to the UK he had played 9 times for NSW and 10 times for Australia, he was in his 20’s and right on top of his game
Let me remind you of the impact that he had in the UK when he arrived... news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 946498.stm
The two main differences between the players you have mentioned above and Matt King is that they haven’t played as much representative football as King and they haven’t played regularly in the UK for us to see the weaknesses in their game
Of course, this is discounting the fact that Australian players apparently get bigger, taller, faster and more skilful as they fly back to Australia (is it some kind of Super Hero thing where they draw strength from the Gamma rays emitting from Bondi Beach?)'"
What I can not give an opinion?
King is not as good now at 30 as he was 4 years ago.
He did play for Australia and went ok but he was always on the end of a team with fantastic distribution at the Storm, NSW and Oz, he was a good finisher.
Warrington seemed to think he was a strike player that would do things on his own like an Inglis.
The unrealistic expectations and culture shock and combined with poor service from his inside players led to what developed in his first season.
Was he a player that made things happen on his own? I don't think so.
Will he play for Australia again? I don't think so.
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King is not as good now at 30 as he was 4 years ago.
He did play for Australia and went ok but he was always on the end of a team with fantastic distribution at the Storm, NSW and Oz, he was a good finisher.
Warrington seemed to think he was a strike player that would do things on his own like an Inglis.
The unrealistic expectations and culture shock and combined with poor service from his inside players led to what developed in his first season.
Was he a player that made things happen on his own? I don't think so.
Will he play for Australia again? I don't think so.
Jog on.'"
Of course you can give an opinion and I can disagree with it as I have
King may or not play for Australian again but the outside backs available for Australia are certainly no stronger than they were when he left for the UK so there is every chance he can |
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King may or not play for Australian again but the outside backs available for Australia are certainly no stronger than they were when he left for the UK so there is every chance he can'"
Is King better now than he was in 2007, now at 30 years of age?
Has his time in England improved his game to a standard higher than what is available from the NRL?
The game in Australia continually moves forward.
In the defence regimented NRL he scored 60 tries in 90 games
In England he has around 48 from 91, plenty of variables there but if he can not average better in England than Australia he is unlikely to make a massive impact.
The bottom half of the teams in SL should be a carve up for a top player. |
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| Quote Jonesy="Jonesy"Is King better now than he was in 2007, now at 30 years of age?
Has his time in England improved his game to a standard higher than what is available from the NRL?
The game in Australia continually moves forward.
In the defence regimented NRL he scored 60 tries in 90 games
In England he has around 48 from 91, plenty of variables there but if he can not average better in England than Australia he is unlikely to make a massive impact.
The bottom half of the teams in SL should be a carve up for a top player.'"
This fascinates me
King has a better strike rate in Australia than he does in the UK and rather than interpreting this as SL being more competitive than it is given credit for you conclude that King must have become a worse player while in England – why would he?
I would guess that if we were having this conversation in 2008 just before King came over, as a current NSW and Kangaroo representative you would have rated him as one of the top players that would carve up the bottom half of Super league (in actuality, the Wire fans all wanted him packed up home in his first season) |
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| Quote Jonesy="Jonesy"Is King better now than he was in 2007, now at 30 years of age?
Has his time in England improved his game to a standard higher than what is available from the NRL?
The game in Australia continually moves forward.
In the defence regimented NRL he scored 60 tries in 90 games
In England he has around 48 from 91, plenty of variables there but if he can not average better in England than Australia he is unlikely to make a massive impact.
The bottom half of the teams in SL should be a carve up for a top player.'"
63 in 95 actually, and i'd say for about 30 of them games we were gash 08/09 |
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| Quote Dunbar="Dunbar"
When Matt King came to the UK he had played 9 times for NSW and 10 times for Australia, he was in his 20’s and [uright on top of his game[/u'"
He had a suspect shoulder from what I remember and no NRL clubs would give him a decent contract so he came to Warrington.
When you factor in the exchange rate back then it made sense for him to play superleague. |
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