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| Quote Fully="Fully"Another person underestimating Cas........'"
Not really, a club like Bradford should be beating the majority of the clubs in the league - including Cas.
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| Quote Paul124897="Paul124897"Not really, a club like Bradford should be beating the majority of the clubs in the league - including Cas.'"
I would love to be like Cas at the minute, a team full of exciting youngsters that give there all every game.
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| Quote Paul124897="Paul124897"Agreed.
The highlighted part is the only bit I don't agree with simply because a poor performance doesn't deserve applauding. Applauding should be for when praise is deserved.'"
Applauding is for the effort, and for wearing the shirt, making & taking the hits. Anyway - the general consensus is that it was not the players fault tonight, the boos mainly came when Sky put up a live shot of McNamara.
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| Quote Highlander="Highlander"Applauding is for the effort, and for wearing the shirt, making & taking the hits. Anyway - the general consensus is that it was not the players fault tonight, the boos mainly came when Sky put up a live shot of McNamara.'"
Ah well, everyone has a different interpretation it seems. The crowd seemed pretty split with 50% doing nothing or booing, and the other half clapping.
I stood still and stayed til the end, but didn't clap or boo.
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| Quote Paul124897="Paul124897"Agreed.
The highlighted part is the only bit I don't agree with simply because a poor performance doesn't deserve applauding. Applauding should be for when praise is deserved.'"
Yes and some of them did deserve praise, some of them still had the enthusiasm to form a scrum (some didn't), some of them took a belting, and some played well despite being abused from the stands before the game had got going, one of them probably has quite a serious injury and others played on with injuries. I reckon unless you are sure you would/could do the same/better then it's at least worth some applause to acknowledge those who did make the effort. Not only that, I haven't seen Wire improve in leaps and bounds with their fans booing them at every opportunity, something i hope we stay clear of, just as long as we also stay clear of their ex-coach!
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| Well, that was a waste of diesel.
We actually put together a performance that was bad for 80 minutes. A performance that one or two posters have been praying for. The OP must have used up several boxes of tissues as the match progressed, and I don't think he was crying.
In the previous games, there have been some very good aspects of the performances and many players have done well enough - the majority, probably - but tonight, it was difficult to pick out more than a handful who emerged with any credit at all.
The magnificent three of menzies, Morro and Burgess were the pick, and oh how i wish that nincompooop Thaler would have got TF out of the way of the pass to Jeffries who was clear, 12-6 coming up to half-time would have been a different proposition but as usual, when you're crap, your luck is crap too, and we kept up our record of gifting the opposition position, length of the field progression and a try in the dying moments of the half, which is our speciality this year.
I don't know if Deacon had concussion and blurred vision last week, but he played and kicked as if he still has. Jeffries was awful again.
Any more positives? Well, Platt had another very solid game, and was easily the pick of the "Backs", though as far as I could see, during the game we picked up injuries to Platt, Newton (who could hardly stand up by the end), Godwin (sounded like a break), Nero to name but a few. This did not help, but it does not excuse the general level of performance which was in a word abysmal. We never once looked like we would score, so much so that when we did avtually string an attack together, the useless Sheriffe put the ball down post haste instead of running a few clear yards to improve the angle, as he probably thought he was dreaming and wanted to score before he woke up.
Needless to say, Deacon's kick was nearer our posts than Wigans. Was he drunk? From normally metronomic kicking, apart frm that shambolic slice, he was lobbing low dollies straight to the oppo wingers or full back, or kicking out miles on the full. Unbelievable, really, for a kicker of his quality.
One to forget, and I fervently hope a one-off. I don't care how many are injured, i want more fire in the belly and more effort than that.
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| Quote Paul124897="Paul124897"Not really, a club like Bradford should be beating the majority of the clubs in the league - including Cas.'"
No you shouldn't. An average side, just like Wigan. You have no divine right to win games. They have to be earnt. Teams like Cas, Huddersfield, Wakefield, Quins are just as capable as any other side in the league.
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| Quote bigsi="bigsi"I honestly think we've got a good enough side for a top 4 finish. The prob is the way we are playing. Running the wrong lines, standing far too deep on the 2nd phase etc etc. We need someone to change the way players are told to play. We have some class who know how to play the game, but for some reason they are bing told to do it wrong!
I bet the side could coach itself (deacon, newton, the beaver, morrison). Would it be any worse??'"
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| What's with 'school teacher' being used as a pejorative term?
Quote It hurts like hell,"It hurts like hell," said McNamara. "I won't deny that. I'm desperately disappointed with the performance. In the first two games there was a whole host of encouraging signs but this is a big setback.
"We were way off tonight. It was one of those nights where everything went wrong. We were poor in every department. There is a lot for us to look at and fix up.
"The Grand Final is a million miles away at the minute from where we're at now and it seems a millions miles away.
"But I've been involved in sides before where got backsides kicked by bigger scorelines than that and come back and won competitions.'"
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Just watched the game on repeat on Aus TV now, suspected the worst when they scored on the half so had a look on here and had the worst confirmed.
We look toothless, no doubt about that. Discipline that had been praised in the past few weeks seems have gone backwards, though we got some pretty harsh calls.
I think that was a pretty decent Wigan performance that would probably have seen of most sides in the league, albeit not by 34 points. It was a thumping of the sort most sides suffer every now and then but we've generally avoided in the McNamara era.
What do we do about it? It would be nice to think we could take simple and swift action to change things for the better. I am still to be convinced as too whether this is the case. The majority on here don't seem to care too much about the consequences. They want McNamara sacked as vengance for performances such as last night's and then... what? Still there are no answers and while that remains the case I see no reason to change my position.
Now I have no doubt that this isn't good enough for people, they're unhappy and they want blood. But blood didn't make the sun rise for the Aztecs and I don't see blood improving things at Odsal.
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| BTW, Saints winning 4 nil at Celtic and Catalans losing a second home game despite featuring you-know-who suggests this league has yet to really settle down...
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| Quote Paul124897="Paul124897"Not really, a club like Bradford should be beating the majority of the clubs in the league - including Cas.'"
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