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| Quote MjM="MjM"Fev finished eleventh in 1994/95 and, like all the clubs below them in the league (Hull, Salford, Wakefield, Widnes, Doncaster), failed to make the cut for SL which was eventually comprised of the ten clubs above them plus Paris and London.
If you have been convincing yourself for the past 17 years that Fev were somehow singled out and plucked from a mid-table position then I'm afraid you're very wrong. No doubt they were unlucky and the process was hardly ideal, but the choice of the existing teams to go into SL was based purely on league table at the end of the 94/95 season. Featherstone were eleventh in the table and there were ten spots available.'"
Had that system been in place at the season start then fine but it wasnt, Rovers were evicted for Paris and promised if they failed we would be back in, the promise wasnt kept followed by Caisleys knife in the back remark
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| I've read some right gash on these forum's(??) in my time but this thread is absurd.
The one thing that unites this game, indeed the only reason we have the game is the supporters.
If anything unites fev fans with bulls fans or wakey for that matter, is the way we have all been let down by the people running our clubs or running our game.
For the fan of one club to berate the fans of another in difficult circumstances is very poor, i would argue if that is your view, you are not a fan of the game.
Some fans and clubs sale close to the wind, and sometimes are ready to be knocked down a peg, but this thread is a joke as IMO is the OP.
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| Quote kinleycat="kinleycat"I've read some right gash on these forum's(??) in my time but this thread is absurd.
The one thing that unites this game, indeed the only reason we have the game is the supporters.
If anything unites fev fans with bulls fans or wakey for that matter, is the way we have all been let down by the people running our clubs or running our game.
For the fan of one club to berate the fans of another in difficult circumstances is very poor, i would argue if that is your view, you are not a fan of the game.
Some fans and clubs sale close to the wind, and sometimes are ready to be knocked down a peg, but this thread is a joke as IMO is the OP.'"
Im no fan of this corrupt game and its selfish fans. Its the most corrupt sport in the UK as will be proved when the new Bradford stay in super league
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| At the end of the 94 season Doncaster were liquidated and reformed in the third tier (todays equivalent being CC1). Featherstone had the chance to be in Super League by merging with Castleford, but both clubs rejected this and chose to go it alone.
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| Quote hi de hi="hi de hi"At the end of the 94 season Doncaster were liquidated and reformed in the third tier (todays equivalent being CC1). Featherstone had the chance to be in Super League by merging with Castleford, but both clubs rejected this and chose to go it alone.'"
Your point is?
My last word on the matter, you never know you may just merge with Halifax and be known as "the Halifax Bull Soxs"
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| can't blame them for that....look how the merger shafted Sheffield
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| Quote pie.warrior="pie.warrior"can't blame them for that....look how the merger shafted Sheffield'"
Yes, but never the less they did have the chance to be in Super League as a merged team, they chose not to. End of argument.
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| Gingdong, leave it alone and focus on Thursday's game.
Whilst the cheap tickets at Bulls have most certainly had an effect on the Fax gate I would not want to be in their shoes. The Bulls fans who I am more than happy to give banter to at a match deserve more after the efforts they made to raise 1/2 a million quid.
What has to happen now has got to be fair to others that have been in this situation, and others who may come up against it shortly.
Not sure what the situation is if the club go under and the RFL have hold of the great white elephant.
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| Quote gingdong="gingdong"Im no fan of this corrupt game and its selfish fans. Its the most corrupt sport in the UK as will be proved when the new Bradford stay in super league'"
You're not a fan of Rugby League yet you have over 400 posts on a Rugby League Internet forum?
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| Quote gingdong="gingdong"Im no fan of this corrupt game and its selfish fans. Its the most corrupt sport in the UK as will be proved when the new Bradford stay in super league'"
No place for you on a forum called RLFans then eh???
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| Quote kinleycat="kinleycat"
The one thing that unites this game, indeed the only reason we have the game is the supporters.
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we were united until, at a guess, around 1995....then it was a case of 'I'm alright jack'
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| Quote spener="spener"we were united until, at a guess, around 1995....then it was a case of 'I'm alright jack''"
Spot on, and while I feel for Bradford fans I doubt there will be too much sympathy, especially as it was Caisley who played a major role in shafting the rest of the clubs.
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| Quote spener="spener"we were united until, at a guess, around 1995....then it was a case of 'I'm alright jack''"
Where all victims somewhere along the line spener!!!
Better to take it out on those dishing it out, rather than those who hurt the most as a result of it!! 
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| Quote gingdong="gingdong"In 95 we were pushing for a play off place then booted out all rubber stamped by Caisley and i never heard 1 Bradford fan protest. '"
And that is the basis for you coming on here and making a t1t of yourself?
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| Firstly, sudden amnesia from the Fev fan thinking his team came 7th?! Funny that because Bradford came 7th too..4 places above Fev.
Lets look at other clubs who didn't make the initial cut - Salford, Wakey, Widnes, Hull, Huddersfield, KR, Leigh. Look at how all those clubs have struggled since  Or perhaps they all got promoted back into Super League at various times, all but one now being in the 14.
Everyone knew that 10 teams were staying up, the rest relegated.
Maybe Fev fans should be more bitter at the coaches, teams and boards not competent enough to stay up or get back up rather than childishness like this
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| Quote gingdong="gingdong"Your point is?
My last word on the matter, you never know you may just merge with Halifax and be known as "the Halifax Bull Soxs"'"
I would have thought that any Fev fan would keep well away from mentioning Halifax Blue Sox. Or are you just another one that didn't see anything.
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| Quote Stul="Stul"Seventeen years of clenched fists and anger - I'm happy for you that you're now happy.
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Seventeen years is nothing. Maurice Lindsay made a foolish comment on television 26 years ago about Wigan Athletic and we're still paying for it now.
Youtube search "Maurice Lindsay v Wigan Athletic"
Good luck.
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| Quote dagger="dagger"Firstly, sudden amnesia from the Fev fan thinking his team came 7th?! Funny that because
Everyone knew that 10 teams were staying up, the rest relegated.
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How do you work that out? At the start of the season the rules were the bottom 3 were relegated in a 16 league division. This making us easily safe from relegation. It was only after the season had finished that the decision to relegate 11 and below was anounced.
I remember playing Sheffield towards the back end of the season and we rested many key players resulting in us losing the game narrowly. Would we have done this if we knew what was at stake?
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| Quote Pencil="Pencil"How do you work that out? At the start of the season the rules were the bottom 3 were relegated in a 16 league division. This making us easily safe from relegation. It was only after the season had finished that the decision to relegate 11 and below was anounced.
I remember playing Sheffield towards the back end of the season and we rested many key players resulting in us losing the game narrowly. Would we have done this if we knew what was at stake?'"
Ask Wigan if they would have rested so many players against Widnes if they thought they would lose.
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| As a fev fan I find it hard to disagree with gingdong. My beef with Bradford started when you pinched Paul Newlove from us for about 200K when the deal should have been at least 500K using Martin Offiah's 440K when transfered to Wigan form Widnes as a guide. I am sure that Mr Caisley had some indication with regards what the trasfer fee would be set to by the tribunal and got the best centre in the british game at a knock down price. Bradford then a few years later sold Newy on in a deal that was worth about 750k if you include the players exchanged.
Then SL comes along and Mr Caisley was involved heavily in the creation of this which resulted in us being kicked out of the top flight. I don't seem to recall the same level of caring RL fans when this happened and in fact many SL fans believe that my club should stay in the past and do not have the right to compete with the so called big boys. A comment that Mr Caisley made in the past quite clearly on the title of this thread.
So when Bradford were winning trophy's and building a decent fan base teams such as us were struggling on just above 1k gates. We had and still have fans disillusioned with the way the game had treated us. From a personal point of view my Dad was one of these and the decision to kick us out of the top flight robbed me of watching my beloved club with him.
Bradford fans have know idea what the creation of SL did to Featherstone Rovers and how hard the struggle has been. If you did then you would realise why we have very little sympathy for Bradford with regards to there financial state.
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| Quote rugbyreddog="rugbyreddog"Ask Wigan if they would have rested so many players against Widnes if they thought they would lose.'"
Would they have rested them if the Widnes v Wigan game was to determine a SL spot?
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| Quote gingdong="gingdong"HURT you dont know the meaning of the word, we were kicked out of the top flight after finishing 7th in 95 for "the good of the game" i have seen Rovers win the league and cup and now we were sacrificed for Paris. Rovers a club that in i think 64 gave the then Bradford Northern several players to get started again. Then some years later in our hour of need we get a public remark like that of one of the big decision makers of the time. Not ONE of you fans took him to task you all bought into it. Sorry like i say what goes round comes round'"
I see where you are coming for both our clubs got shafted in 95 for the so called good of the game and The Bulls picked a lot of new young support up off the back of it and the game is not has good now despite SL
The Bulls lost money season in season out even through the glory years and that in the end will come and bite you on the backside SL was supposed to end all this yet London/Wakefield/Crusaders/Paris/Halifax/Hull have all being in trouble add to that Widnes and Oldham/Workington who have being left to rot in the lower leagues I fear others are in trouble and 2 or 3 are propped up by a sugar daddy who will get sick of funding the gap in time SL stinks
Others like Hunslet/Dewsbury/Keighley/and Batley have all being shafted at some point all for the so called good of the game not to mention the farce of Hull/Gateshead Hudds/Sheff
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That is not the fault of the people who matter in all this the Bulls fans the players and all the admin staff who now fear for their jobs people with mortgages to pay this is an awful situation for them and I wish them all the luck in the world.
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| Quote gingdong="gingdong"Im no fan of this corrupt game and its selfish fans. Its the most corrupt sport in the UK as will be proved when the new Bradford stay in super league'"
Small town, small minded, ignorant, paranoid flatcapper.
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| Quote Pencil="Pencil"..Bradford fans have know idea what the creation of SL did to Featherstone Rovers and how hard the struggle has been. If you did then you would realise why we have very little sympathy for Bradford with regards to there financial state.'"
Right, I've stayed away from this thread, but, please stop tarring all of us as Brand new super duper league fans with the implication we don't care about any other team or any events before 1995. Some of know perfectly well what went on and the implications.
I live next door to a fev fan, so I know you're not all as bitter, twisted and angry as the OP. Likewise there were and are plenty of Bradford fans who knew perfectly well how shafted you appeared to be, and other teams at the time and over the years, in '95 there was no rlfans or twitter for the world to bleat on, but I know of plenty of discussions at the time with fellow fans where we discussed it and thought it was unfair....but what hell were we as fans suppossed to do? If it had been the other way round you would have acted the exact same way as us, concerned but ultimately powerless and more intent on your own clubs prospects.
You got a beef with CC, fine, if you haven't noticed so do we. I'm not asking for sympathey, no-one is as far as I can tell, but using this forum to vent your spleens at us fans seems pretty pointless to me. But if it makes you all happy - fire away, gald to help, we have bigger concerns at the moment.
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| Quote Duckman="Duckman"Right, I've stayed away from this thread, but, please stop tarring all of us as Brand new super duper league fans with the implication we don't care about any other team or any events before 1995. Some of know perfectly well what went on and the implications.
I live next door to a fev fan, so I know you're not all as bitter, twisted and angry as the OP. Likewise there were and are plenty of Bradford fans who knew perfectly well how shafted you appeared to be, and other teams at the time and over the years, in '95 there was no rlfans or twitter for the world to bleat on, but I know of plenty of discussions at the time with fellow fans where we discussed it and thought it was unfair....but what hell were we as fans suppossed to do? If it had been the other way round you would have acted the exact same way as us, concerned but ultimately powerless and more intent on your own clubs prospects.
You got a beef with CC, fine, if you haven't noticed so do we. I'm not asking for sympathey, no-one is as far as I can tell, but using this forum to vent your spleens at us fans seems pretty pointless to me. But if it makes you all happy - fire away, gald to help, we have bigger concerns at the moment.'"
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