It would seem Harris might be looking for a new job...

Are you thinking what I'm thinking? Can't be any worse....surely!!

glad to see Wakey stay, if they get there new ground out of the decision it is good for both the game and the club, if they dont, Hello Halifax!

halifax were fuming on sky. according to them they were told they, like wakey, had to sort there ground out. they did, wakey didn't but wakey got the golden tivcket

Completely the opposite opinion here - Wakefield have had three years to deliver something more than a set of drawings that don't even have final planning permission. They've failed to do so. They didn't deserve a stay of execution on the basis of empty promises.

You need to add Cas along with Wakey though mate... but point made!

The reality is that if, in three years time, fax & wakey are battling it out over a franchise then the game won't have progressed in any great way. And if the game isn't making advances then the argument in favour of franchising isn't a particularly convincing one.

And Cas?



Come on Andy, Wakefield and Cas both look likley to be in new grounds by the start of the next round of Franchises and if either one isn't, then they are done for. What would be your opinion if that turned out to be Cas?

I seem to remember that very same line being trotted out around this time in 2008.



The difference between the two clubs is that Cas are currently playing at a stadium which is acceptable. Wakefield aren't.



Add in the other criteria on which franchise applications are judged (youth development, attendances, on field performance, financial management etc) and IMO Cas are head and shoulders clear of Wakefield if it comes down to a straight fight between the two.



Even if Wakefield were in a shiny new stadium (at Newmarket or wherever else) in 2014, they would still have to improve in all of these other areas to make them a more viable SL prospect than Castleford.

But they've had 3 years to sort it out, and haven't

Look Andy, you are being a little biased here.



The situation is clear, by March/April next year Wakefield will either be given the green-light to build a new stadium or they won't. If not, they are screwed.



Cas currently don't know when or even if they will get planning for a Tesco on WR, even though I think they will, I don't think it will be before the middle of next year at the earliest. That is still ok and puts them in a new ground before the next round of franchises.



Also, if you see my post earlier you need to be careful about academy and youth development. The rumour is only four clubs where given a 'green' for their youth set up after the recent audits and two of them were allegedly Wakefield and Cas... Leeds, our club, allegedly got an amber!



They also score well on Community and probably have the best community set-up in SL. Now, do I think Cas's application was stronger than Wakefield, without question but head and shoulders? not sure about that!



As for stadiums, well they both don't meet the criteria, yes Cas has more covered standing, but less seats I think? They both fall short, probably Belle Vue shorter than WR, but still short!

Agreed. In some ways I'm pleased for Wakey, or more accurately their fans, but their accomplishments in the last 3 years have been:



Off-field: Jack poop

On-field: Jack poop



Cas have a lot more to offer.Wheldon Road surely isn't that far short of the required standard, and could probably be updated a bit if the new ground proposed falls through. I haven't been to Belle Vue for a few years, but unless it's improved a lot it's a total poop-hole (well typed "poop" there to avoid it getting changed for me didn't I?) - if you see it on a non-match day it actually looks like it's derelict.

Oh the irony.



We all know your views on Wakefield IA and your attachment to the Newmarket project. It's a little rich for you to start throwing the "biased" tag at others.

Is it possible for the OP to have gotten it anymore wrong than this?



Except for Widnes coming in (old news and already officially announced) it appears to be a hat-trick of fail.



Spectacular.