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| Quote EmmaMur01="EmmaMur01"You are confusing his club career with his international career. This is about him as English coach, not Leeds coach.'"
I don't give a tuppenny e about his England coaching career Coco. I couldn't care less if he'd played 10 lost 10.
I will always be grateful to him for bringing us what had eluded us for so long.
Any Leeds 'supporter' who cannot appreciate what Smith did for Leeds needs their head reading and would probably enjoy the 80s all over again.
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| Quote EmmaMur01="EmmaMur01"You are confusing his club career with his international career. This is about him as English coach, not Leeds coach.'"
Emma, I don't want to get in the middle of a domestic, but what more could Smith have done as England coach? In the World Cup he lost to the the two finalists, one of which is being touted as the greatest ever Australian team and on that won the tournament. This year he lost to the same "greatest ever" Australian team and beat the current world champions!
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| Quote Cala Millor Rhino="Cala Millor Rhino"Emma, I don't want to get in the middle of a domestic, but what more could Smith have done as England coach? In the World Cup he lost to the the two finalists, one of which is being touted as the greatest ever Australian team and on that won the tournament. This year he lost to the same "greatest ever" Australian team and beat the current world champions!'"
Put the greatest coach ever in charge of this lot and he'll fail too.
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| Quote Cala Millor Rhino="Cala Millor Rhino"Emma, I don't want to get in the middle of a domestic, but what more could Smith have done as England coach? In the World Cup he lost to the the two finalists, one of which is being touted as the greatest ever Australian team and on that won the tournament. This year he lost to the same "greatest ever" Australian team and beat the current world champions!'"
I have no probs with the matches against Australia. We were beaten by a better, (and world class team). However I do have a problem with the performances against France, and the World cup last year.
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| Look at the experience and quality of players 1-7 and what happened was inevitable, in fact they performed above expectation at times.
However on squad selection, an experienced quality centre ie Senior (granted we don't know the full story of his offer) as well as a balanced half back pairing ie Eastmond/Tomkins with an experienced Burrow/Mcguire and sticking with it would have made some difference. I'm all for blooding youth but the back line had no chance, even if the pivots got quality ball wide Bridge and Shenton wouldn't put their wing away
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| Quote Cala Millor Rhino="Cala Millor Rhino"Emma, I don't want to get in the middle of a domestic, but what more could Smith have done as England coach? In the World Cup he lost to the the two finalists, one of which is being touted as the greatest ever Australian team and on that won the tournament. This year he lost to the same "greatest ever" Australian team and beat the current world champions!'"
losing is not the issue ricky, it's the way we lost. we were a disorganised shambles. it was embarressing
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| Quote Head High Tackle="Head High Tackle"I don't give a tuppenny poop about his England coaching career Coco. I couldn't care less if he'd played 10 lost 10.
I will always be grateful to him for bringing us what had eluded us for so long.
Any Leeds 'supporter' who cannot appreciate what Smith did for Leeds needs their head reading and would probably enjoy the 80s all over again.'"
He's a Leeds legend no doubt about it but do you think that should be considered when offering opinions about his England reign??
I personally think they are 2 completely different entities and even when you consider the calibre of the players available at international level and the lack of quality backs performances have been mainly dissapointing imo.
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| Quote EmmaMur01="EmmaMur01"I have no probs with the matches against Australia. We were beaten by a better, (and world class team). However I do have a problem with the performances against France, and the World cup last year.'"
so a 66-12 win wasn't good enough for you earlier this year? How disrespectful are you being to France? I trust you were equally disgusted with Leeds' performance against Catalans in the play-offs.
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| ...doesn't take long for the knives to come out does it.
Sad thing is, this isn't reserved for Smith. Lose a few games over Easter and it will be our own, current players that are on the receiving end.
Worst fans in the league..... except for St Helens.
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| Quote G1="G1"...doesn't take long for the knives to come out does it.
Sad thing is, this isn't reserved for Smith. Lose a few games over Easter and it will be our own, current players that are on the receiving end.
Worst fans in the league..... except for St Helens.'"
I wouldn't say the knives are out,are you not dissapointed with how TS has done at international level??
Just because fans are dissapointed at how England have done it's hardly getting the knives out imo.
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| Quote rhinoms="rhinoms"I wouldn't say the knives are out,are you not dissapointed with how TS has done at international level??'"
No. I expected him to do naff all and I havent been disappointed.
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Just because fans are dissapointed at how England have done it's hardly getting the knives out imo.'"
Of course it is. Some people just love to stick the boot in on Smith. It's a shame that one of the most decorated coaches in Leeds RLFC history is so reviled by areas of the supporter base.
Gareths right about our supporters.
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| We could have Jack Gibson coaching us and the result would have been the same - their is simply no substitute for class.
The gulf between SL and the NRL is so wide as to be laughable if it weren't so sad. The Aussies technical ability physicality/speed and game awareness is light years ahead of our players.
Until we are able to get more of our players immersed into that culture the results will continue to be as they have in recent years.
As for Smith - I thought he did a pretty good job given the players at his disposal - this will be seen a high point after next years quad nations
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