But you look at Fozzard who has played more games and made more carries and compare it to the four chosen Leeds props, is this a fair stat? More games should obviously equal more meters, hence why taking an average is actually the only fair way forward.

I tell you what you lot stick to knocking one out over the spreadsheets and we'll stick to watching our props picking up trophies!!

There's only one statistic that matters in Rugby League. These statistics are compiled every October.



We've been doing pretty well in this statistic lately.

Is the right answer!

I don't think it's a bad signing for Saints, he can still do 20mins at full belt to give ginger minge a rest.

But it's not though is it. It's 50% of the major trophies. Despite what the Leeds fans may try to make out their club hasn't got tunnel vision for winning the GF, they setout this season to win the Challenge Cup.



Leeds are currently as dominant as any side has ever been in the Super League era but their trophy cabinet isn't exactly bursting as they keep losing in the Challenge Cup. Leeds are a good team, a great team would win both.

I get it, now there is a possibility Saints are going to struggle to compete for trophies you are looking back at past success, your getting more like Wigan every day

I've done no such thing. I've merely pointed out that despite being dominant at the moment Leeds aren't doing as well in the trophy collecting business as they should be.

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If, and it's still a big if, Leeds go on to win this SL this year making it 3 SL titles in a row would that make them a great team or would we still be under achieving in the trophy collecting business?

It would mean you are underachieving given your dominance





Winning SL this season isn't a big if. The only way Leeds are going to lose out is if they lose three or four to injury for the GF. It's 99.342% certain you've already won it.

Give it up man.